EP202 - I Want to Change My PSA, but I’m Scared! With Chris Timm and Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Release Date: 10/11/2024
EP226 – What To Do When Your Clients Say They Can’t Afford You Anymore with Clare Elliott & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
But is that really the end of the road, or is there something you can do to keep that client, maintain profitability, and avoid unnecessary churn? In this episode of the IT Experts Podcast, I sat down with our resident finance coach, Clare Elliott, to explore what MSPs can do when faced with clients who are reconsidering their contracts. Clare works with MSPs every day inside the Growth Hub, helping business owners understand their numbers, optimise their pricing, and make better financial decisions. One of the key takeaways from our conversation is that if a client calls you to say...
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EP225 – Inside the MSP Growth Hub – January 2025 Intensive Round Up with Stuart Warwick, Clare Elliott, Julie Hutchison & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
I’m joined by fellow MSP Growth Hub coaches Stuart Warwick, Julie Hutchison, and Clare Elliott, as we reflect on the key takeaways from our January 2025 two-day intensive. These intensives are the cornerstone of the MSP Growth Hub’s Scale with Confidence model, bringing together MSP owners and leaders to reflect, reset, and refocus on their business growth. The January event was centred around the theme of ‘Harnessing Ambition’—not just setting strategic goals but ensuring they are cascaded throughout the entire organisation. This is where business owners can make real...
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EP224 – What’s the Perfect Structure for an MSP? with Alison Whitfield & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Many MSPs start with a handful of technical people, then bolt on account management, sales, marketing, and operations as they grow. But without a clearly defined structure, this approach can create inefficiencies, miscommunication, and stalled growth. That’s why we brought in Alison Whitfield from Cultivate People Services, a people and culture expert with a wealth of experience working with MSPs. Together, we unpack the essential components of structuring an MSP for growth, leadership development, and team alignment. Alison shares her perspective on why structure is so much more...
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EP223 – Ask Stuart #18 - The Consequence of Not Stopping! And Taking Stock with Ian Luckett & Stuart Warwick
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
As business owners, we often pride ourselves on pushing forward, solving problems, and keeping things moving. But what happens when we don’t stop to reflect? What are the hidden risks of ploughing ahead without taking a moment to reassess our strategy, our goals, and even our own leadership? Stuart and I unpack exactly that in today’s conversation, and trust me, if you’re an MSP looking to scale, this is something you don’t want to ignore. We all know the feeling of getting caught up in the day-to-day operations—whether it's handling client issues, managing your team, or...
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EP222 – STOP Attracting the Wrong People to Your MSP with Julie Hutchison & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Now, if you've ever been in the frustrating position of recruiting someone you thought was perfect for the job, only to find out they’re not the right fit at all, you’re not alone. This happens more often than you might think, and in today’s episode, we uncover exactly why MSPs keep attracting the wrong people—and more importantly, how to stop it from happening. Julie shares a story from a recent conversation with an MSP owner who was struggling to find the right person for their team. They needed someone dynamic, open to change, and capable of taking the business forward. But...
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EP221 – Becoming B Corp… And the Difference It Made To My Business - Success Stories with Gildas Jones & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
For those who aren’t familiar, B Corp is essentially a certification that demonstrates a company’s commitment to social and environmental responsibility. It’s often described as the gold standard for ethical business practices, ensuring that organisations consider the impact of their decisions on employees, customers, suppliers, the community, and the planet. It’s about running a business with integrity and proving that you’re doing the right thing—not just saying you are. Gildas explained that he’s always been passionate about running a business with strong values,...
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EP220 – Improving Service Delivery in your MSP with Michelle Coombs & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
One of the biggest takeaways from our conversation is that when clients say an MSP is “too expensive,” what they actually mean is that they don’t see the value in the service. This is a massive problem in the industry. MSPs often assume that if tickets are low and complaints are minimal, everything is running smoothly. But in reality, service delivery is about so much more than just fixing issues. It’s about building relationships, setting clear expectations, and continuously improving processes to meet client needs. Michelle Coombs quickly pointed out that the traditional...
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EP219 – Want to Grow Your Business?... Then Leverage Your Team with Julie Hutchison & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
One of the biggest challenges we see in the MSP space is that many business owners started their journey as technical experts. They didn’t necessarily set out to run a business – they just knew they were great at what they did and wanted to do it better than the company they worked for. The problem? Running a business requires a completely different skill set to just doing the technical work. At some point, every MSP owner reaches that moment where they realise they can’t do it all themselves. But that realisation often comes with frustration—because even when they bring in a team,...
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EP218 – How to Prospect on LinkedIn with Sam Rathling and Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
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EP217 - Grow your MSP with Apple…Or Get Left Behind with Ben Greiner & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
We began by addressing a common stigma: why so many MSPs avoid Apple devices despite their undeniable popularity and premium quality. Ben highlighted that while many MSPs are deeply rooted in the Microsoft ecosystem—largely due to its strong channel support and financial incentives—Apple has been quietly making significant inroads into the business world. In fact, as Ben pointed out, companies like IBM and Cisco have embraced Apple devices, with up to 60% of their employees choosing Apple when given the option. This trend is a clear indication that Apple is no longer just for creatives...
info_outlineTo help guide us through this minefield, I’m joined by PSA expert Chris Timm, who returns to share his invaluable insights on when and how to make this big change. If you’ve ever thought about switching your PSA, or are just wondering if your current tool is still the right fit, this episode is packed with practical advice and real-world examples to help you avoid common pitfalls.
Chris Timm begins by highlighting a phenomenon many of us are familiar with: shiny ball syndrome, or as he calls it, the “magpie effect.” It’s all too easy to get distracted by the latest tools and products hitting the market, but as Chris points out, not all decisions to switch your PSA are based on sound reasoning. The question you really need to ask yourself is: is this tool helping my business achieve its goals, or am I simply following the crowd?
A crucial point made by Chris is that many MSPs aren’t fully utilising the capabilities of their existing PSA. Often, MSPs buy a PSA for basic functions like ticketing, but fail to explore other features like billing, project management, or customer profitability tracking. Chris stresses the importance of self-auditing your PSA to determine whether it’s genuinely failing to meet your needs, or if you’re simply not using it to its full potential. If your current PSA can do what you need, but you haven’t tapped into those functions, it might be worth sticking with it rather than jumping ship.
However, there are legitimate reasons for changing your PSA, and Chris outlines a few key ones. Perhaps your vendor is overcharging or tying you into long-term contracts with little innovation. Maybe your business has grown, and your current tool isn’t scaling with you. When these factors come into play, it’s time to seriously consider moving to a new PSA that can better support your business.
Once the decision to change your PSA has been made, the next challenge is managing the transition. Chris and I discuss the complexity of switching PSAs, comparing it to open-heart surgery for an MSP. There are several factors to consider: how much data you need to transfer, how long the transition will take, and how to train your team on the new system. Chris advises against trying to do it all yourself and strongly recommends working with a consultant or your PSA vendor to ensure a smooth and efficient migration.
One key takeaway from this episode is the importance of proper planning and resource allocation when changing your PSA. Chris emphasises that the process will require a significant time investment, especially for your technical lead. A common mistake MSPs make is underestimating how much time and effort the transition will take, which can stretch the process from months to a year or more. A dedicated team member needs to be assigned to oversee the implementation and ensure the PSA is set up correctly from the start.
But as Chris and I both agree, despite the challenges, getting your PSA right can be transformational for your MSP. The right tool can save you countless hours, automate manual tasks, and streamline your operations. From billing to project management, a well-implemented PSA can make your business more efficient, reduce costs, and ultimately improve your bottom line. For your technical team, the right PSA can simplify workflows and make their jobs easier, giving them more time to focus on strategic work that helps grow the business.
If you’re considering switching your PSA, Chris Timm’s top three tips are clear: make sure you’re moving for the right reasons, fully understand what your current PSA can do before deciding to change, and always work with someone experienced to help guide you through the process.
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