EP203 – Ask Stuart #17 – How to Create a High Performing Team… While Taking 3 Weeks Off
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Release Date: 10/18/2024
EP229 – Ask Stuart #19 – Help! …I’m Scared of Niching My MSP Marketing with Ian Luckett & Stuart Warwick
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Or more accurately, the fear of niching. It’s that internal tug-of-war between wanting more leads and being scared that if you narrow your focus, you’ll somehow lose out on opportunities. So in this episode, I turned the tables and interviewed my co-host Ian Luckett, who’s been doing some seriously powerful work with our clients on this very subject over the past 12 months. Let’s get this out in the open straight away – niching is not about turning people away or putting your business in a box. It’s about getting clear on who you help, how you help them, and making sure...
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EP228 – MSP Lead Gen Secrets with Scott Millar & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Now, for those of you who don’t know Scott, he’s been helping MSPs since 2016 after experiencing the all-too-familiar frustration of lead generation in his own MSP. As he says, once you’re in the room with a prospect, it’s usually straightforward to talk about tech, pain points and solutions. The hard bit? Getting in the room in the first place. That challenge became the mission behind IT Rockstars, and today Scott works with hundreds of MSPs around the world, transforming how they attract and engage new business. The heart of our conversation was about practical, real-world...
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EP227 - Preparing Your People for M&A with Alison Whitfield & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Now we all know M&A – mergers and acquisitions – can be one of the fastest ways to grow and scale your business. Once you’ve got your house in order, and you’re running at a solid EBITDA with strong operational maturity, bolting on new businesses might seem like the logical next step. But – and it’s a big but – what’s often overlooked is what that really means for your people. And if your culture, leadership, and structure aren’t ready, the train can very quickly come off the rails. Alison brings a grounded, real-world view to this conversation. She’s been on...
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EP226 – What To Do When Your Clients Say They Can’t Afford You Anymore with Clare Elliott & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
But is that really the end of the road, or is there something you can do to keep that client, maintain profitability, and avoid unnecessary churn? In this episode of the IT Experts Podcast, I sat down with our resident finance coach, Clare Elliott, to explore what MSPs can do when faced with clients who are reconsidering their contracts. Clare works with MSPs every day inside the Growth Hub, helping business owners understand their numbers, optimise their pricing, and make better financial decisions. One of the key takeaways from our conversation is that if a client calls you to say...
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EP225 – Inside the MSP Growth Hub – January 2025 Intensive Round Up with Stuart Warwick, Clare Elliott, Julie Hutchison & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
I’m joined by fellow MSP Growth Hub coaches Stuart Warwick, Julie Hutchison, and Clare Elliott, as we reflect on the key takeaways from our January 2025 two-day intensive. These intensives are the cornerstone of the MSP Growth Hub’s Scale with Confidence model, bringing together MSP owners and leaders to reflect, reset, and refocus on their business growth. The January event was centred around the theme of ‘Harnessing Ambition’—not just setting strategic goals but ensuring they are cascaded throughout the entire organisation. This is where business owners can make real...
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EP224 – What’s the Perfect Structure for an MSP? with Alison Whitfield & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Many MSPs start with a handful of technical people, then bolt on account management, sales, marketing, and operations as they grow. But without a clearly defined structure, this approach can create inefficiencies, miscommunication, and stalled growth. That’s why we brought in Alison Whitfield from Cultivate People Services, a people and culture expert with a wealth of experience working with MSPs. Together, we unpack the essential components of structuring an MSP for growth, leadership development, and team alignment. Alison shares her perspective on why structure is so much more...
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EP223 – Ask Stuart #18 - The Consequence of Not Stopping! And Taking Stock with Ian Luckett & Stuart Warwick
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
As business owners, we often pride ourselves on pushing forward, solving problems, and keeping things moving. But what happens when we don’t stop to reflect? What are the hidden risks of ploughing ahead without taking a moment to reassess our strategy, our goals, and even our own leadership? Stuart and I unpack exactly that in today’s conversation, and trust me, if you’re an MSP looking to scale, this is something you don’t want to ignore. We all know the feeling of getting caught up in the day-to-day operations—whether it's handling client issues, managing your team, or...
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EP222 – STOP Attracting the Wrong People to Your MSP with Julie Hutchison & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
Now, if you've ever been in the frustrating position of recruiting someone you thought was perfect for the job, only to find out they’re not the right fit at all, you’re not alone. This happens more often than you might think, and in today’s episode, we uncover exactly why MSPs keep attracting the wrong people—and more importantly, how to stop it from happening. Julie shares a story from a recent conversation with an MSP owner who was struggling to find the right person for their team. They needed someone dynamic, open to change, and capable of taking the business forward. But...
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EP221 – Becoming B Corp… And the Difference It Made To My Business - Success Stories with Gildas Jones & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
For those who aren’t familiar, B Corp is essentially a certification that demonstrates a company’s commitment to social and environmental responsibility. It’s often described as the gold standard for ethical business practices, ensuring that organisations consider the impact of their decisions on employees, customers, suppliers, the community, and the planet. It’s about running a business with integrity and proving that you’re doing the right thing—not just saying you are. Gildas explained that he’s always been passionate about running a business with strong values,...
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EP220 – Improving Service Delivery in your MSP with Michelle Coombs & Ian Luckett
IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett
One of the biggest takeaways from our conversation is that when clients say an MSP is “too expensive,” what they actually mean is that they don’t see the value in the service. This is a massive problem in the industry. MSPs often assume that if tickets are low and complaints are minimal, everything is running smoothly. But in reality, service delivery is about so much more than just fixing issues. It’s about building relationships, setting clear expectations, and continuously improving processes to meet client needs. Michelle Coombs quickly pointed out that the traditional...
info_outlineNow, I know what you’re thinking—"We’ve talked about building teams before, haven’t we?" And you’re right, but Stuart is bringing a fresh take today, one that’s not just about the usual metrics and leadership strategies. Instead, we’re focusing on how to do it while you’re on holiday. Stuart walks us through the process that one of our clients, Andy, went through, building a high-performing team that allowed him to take a full three-week break—without being disturbed once. That’s the dream for many MSP owners, and Stuart is here to break down how Andy made it a reality.
One of the key points Stuart makes in this episode is the importance of building an Owner Not Needed (ONN) business. The idea is simple but powerful—replace "Owner" with your name: Ian Not Needed, Stuart Not Needed, Andy Not Needed. It’s about building a business where you can step away and it not just survive, but thrive. Most MSP owners started on the technical side of things, and because of that, many struggle to let go. There’s an ego element to it—"If I’m not involved, will they do it right?"—and that can make it hard to trust your team to handle things on their own.
But Stuart emphasises that part of creating a high-performing team is getting out of your own way. One of the most counterintuitive but effective strategies he mentions is this: go on holiday. The more you step back, the more space you create for your team to step up. Andy’s journey started with nervousness, but over time, he began to see that his team not only managed in his absence but also proactively moved the business forward. By giving his team the freedom to own their roles, they were able to take on internal projects, improve processes, and keep the business running smoothly—all while Andy enjoyed his time off.
Stuart also talks about the importance of testing this trust incrementally. He suggests starting with smaller periods away from the business, like a week’s holiday, and gradually increasing the time as you and your team gain confidence. It’s about trying something new, and trusting the people you’ve hired. And if something doesn’t go right during your absence, that’s valuable feedback—an opportunity to reassess whether you’ve got the right people in the right roles.
Another crucial aspect Stuart touches on is measurement. He shares an example from Andy’s business where they set a KPI around recording ticket time. Previously, the team struggled to record more than four hours of billable work a day, but by setting a clear target, they were able to regularly hit between five and six hours, leading to a significant impact on the bottom line. By setting these kinds of benchmarks and communicating them clearly with your team, you not only help them understand what success looks like but also keep the business on track while you’re away.
Stuart highlights the importance of involving the team in the journey. It’s not enough to hand over responsibility without context. Engaging your team in conversations about the future of your MSP, listening to their ideas, and incorporating their feedback into the overall plan makes them feel valued and therefore invested. This level of involvement leads to greater ownership, and in Andy’s case, it resulted in a team that could run the business seamlessly, allowing him to take those coveted weeks off.
So, if you’re an MSP owner who’s been hesitant to step back, take a page from Andy’s book. Trust your team, set clear expectations, and give them the space to prove that they can handle things without you. With the right people and processes in place, you’ll be able to enjoy the freedom that comes with an Owner Not Needed business.
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