The Secret to Surviving AI: Why Soft Skills and Real Partnerships Always Win with Ben Childs| Ep #856
Release Date: 11/23/2025
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If you’re one of the many owners concerned that AI will end the agency model, what are you doing to stay relevant? How are you building lasting relationships that help clients see your value beyond executing tasks? Artificial intelligence, automation, and enterprise-level change have everyone in the agency world wondering what’s next. However, agencies have managed to stay relevant with past technological disruptions and the answer has always been: you need to adapt.
Today’s featured guest has scaled his business through seven iterations for over fourteen years by being willing to adapt to change, and the AI era is no exception. He’ll unpack how agencies can stay relevant when technology, data, and client expectations are evolving faster than ever. He also talks about the importance of partnership-based client relationships and why soft skills (not just smart systems) are the real differentiator in the next decade.
Ben Childs is the President of Digital Reach, a full-stack B2B marketing consultancy serving SaaS, cybersecurity, AI, and data-driven technology clients. With deep expertise in paid media, SEO, RevOps, and digital experience, Ben’s team helps enterprise companies integrate their marketing, data, and operations to drive real revenue growth. Since launching in 2011, Digital Reach has evolved through multiple “versions” as it adapted to the changing marketing landscape, becoming one of the most respected players in modern B2B marketing.
In this episode, we’ll discuss:
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The soft skills edge that outperforms AI.
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Why you should start running toward the problem.
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The power of in-person connections in a remote-forward industry.
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How Agencies Can Stay Relevant in AI Revolution
At a recent Ad Week event, Ben heard a fellow agency leader predict that all agencies would be “dead in two years” because of AI. Her point: enterprise companies are developing their own language models and internal data systems, cutting agencies out of the picture.
Ben does admit this is true. However, his outlook is more optimistic, seeing several possible solutions. Should agencies be partnering with third-party data providers? Should they adjust their skill set? In his view, the need for strategic expertise and technical problem-solving won’t disappear anytime soon. The agencies that thrive will be those who adapt to new tools while deepening their human value—helping clients navigate complexity, not just execute tasks.
“The reality,” Ben explains, “is that hiring people to help you solve hard problems isn’t going away. Business is always changing, and that’s a huge opportunity for agency owners willing to think and integrate, not panic.”
Why Soft Skills Outperform AI in the Agency World
As agencies evolve, the differentiator isn’t going to be who can use AI faster, it’s who can understand and support people better.
When it comes to enterprise clients, marketing execution has become table stakes. What truly sets a great agency apart is the ability to navigate organizational politics, manage internal friction, and act as a trusted advisor inside complex companies.
“We’re armchair psychologists half the time,” he laughs. “Our clients know we’re good at SEO or paid media. What they really need is someone who helps them get things approved, makes their life easier, and has their back when things get tough.”
Soft problems will never go away and, Ben argues, may even increase in value when the execution problems potentially become commoditized. Agencies that ignore human connection will lose, just like traditional firms that refused to go digital twenty years ago. In the end, the “people part” never goes out of style.
Adapting Your Agency: Lessons from 7 Business Iterations
Ben started Digital Reach in 2011 using his grandmother’s dresser as a desk and charging $200 a month for Google Ads management. Since then, the agency has reinvented itself seven times—each evolution aligning to new markets, services, and technologies.
From scrappy freelancer to B2B consultancy, Ben’s philosophy has stayed the same: build, learn, and change before you’re forced to.
“We’re on Digital Reach 7.0 in 14 years,” he says. “We’ll probably hit version 12.0 in the next ten. You can’t just ride your old business idea into Valhalla. Some people will always be better at adapting, and that will never change.”
WhyPartnership (Not Performance) Determines Client Retention
When agencies talk about “partnership,” it often sounds like marketing fluff. But Ben explains that true partnership is built on trust and reliability, not just metrics.
Most clients don’t fire agencies because of poor performance; they leave because of broken trust, poor communication, or lack of understanding.
“When clients say, ‘You don’t get our business,’ that’s when numbers start to matter,” Ben explains. “If they can’t trust you when things go wrong, you’re done.”
Ben understands that helping clients solve internal problems like procurement delays or team politics can do more to build loyalty than a great campaign. Running toward the problem, taking ownership, and communicating transparently are the fastest ways to strengthen relationships that last across multiple companies.
Build Client Trust Fast by Running Toward the Problem
Other than delivering results and making your clients’ lives easier, Ben believes another powerful way to build trust is not being afraid to admit your mistakes and being quick to fix them. Honesty builds staying power. When agencies take responsibility for missteps and present a clear plan for fixing them, clients respond with respect, not resentment.
Do not avoid the problem. In fact, you should run towards the problem and face the situation head on. You’ll get more benefit of the doubt from clients with this attitude. Ben’s team once led a client call with bad news—the metrics were down. Instead of hiding it, they explained what went wrong, what they learned, and how they’d adjust. “The client was ready to run through a wall for us after that,” he says. “They loved that we owned it.”
The Power of In-Person Connection in a Remote-Forward Industry
As agencies lean more into remote work, Ben calls for agencies to make an effort to meet with clients in person: “In-person will always be in vogue.” It’ll help your clients understand who you are, rather than just staring at your picture on Zoom, and trying to form a true connection.
He encourages owners to set a clear revenue threshold for when to invest in face-to-face meetings—whether that’s a kickoff, annual review, or shared conference. When clients meet you over pizza and a drink, it transforms the relationship from vendor to partner.
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