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Jolly Pradhan Interview - Stop Building the Wrong Thing: Real B2B Innovation Explained

The Systems Engineering Podcast

Release Date: 02/11/2026

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πŸ”— EPISODE LINKS πŸ”—

- Jolly Pradhan:
-- https://www.endtoendinnovation.co/

-- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jollypradhan/

 

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 Introduction β€” B2B innovation, building the right thing, notes + Tech Planning Copilot

00:01:32 Jolly Pradhan and End-to-End Innovation Consulting from Idea to Launch

00:03:01 Validating Customer Needs β€” Avoiding Assumptions & Interviewing Properly

00:06:15 β€œBuild the Right Thing” vs β€œBuild It Right”

00:06:49 Systems Thinking in Practice β€” Semiconductor Story & Cross-Discipline Integration

00:10:08 De-Risking Early β€” Stakeholders, Manufacturing Lessons & Avoiding Rework

00:12:49 Prioritisation β€” Avoiding Paralysis & Focusing on Core Needs

00:15:10 B2B Reality β€” Integration Over ROI & The Hiring AI Case Study

00:21:24 AI Hype vs Reality β€” Asking Better Questions & Scaling Responsibly

00:25:49 Scaling & Architecture β€” Storage, Costs, Requirements Before Build

00:30:12 Lean Startup vs Long-Term Thinking β€” MVPs, Architecture & Duct-Tape Software

00:38:25 MIT SDM Journey β€” Career Pivot & Continuous Learning

00:47:14 Innovation Inside Large Firms β€” Buy-In, Process Mapping & Structured Problem Solving

00:57:55 Final Takeaways β€” End-to-End Thinking, Assumptions & AI as a Tool

01:06:05 Outro β€” Links, Notes & Connect with Jolly