NoCo 2025: Optimistic Rumors and the Battle for the Soul of the Industry
Lancaster Farming Industrial Hemp Podcast
Release Date: 04/18/2025
Lancaster Farming Industrial Hemp Podcast
This week on the show we reconnect with Chad Rosen, founder and CEO of Victory Hemp Foods, who was first on the show back in the summer of ‘21 when I drove the Lancaster Farming National Hemp Tour RV right up to Victory Hemp’s grain bins in Carrollton, Kentucky. When I was there 4 years ago, Victory was processing batches, roughly 20,000 lbs a month, but they just put in a new processing line that lets them do 120,000 pounds of hemp hearts per month, a sixfold increase. But that’s not all. The new production line features “patented processing technology” that Rosen said, “delivers...
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The hemp event of the summer is taking place in Raleigh, North Carolina, July 15-17. It's the Global Industrial Hemp Fiber Summit, hosted by the Wilson College of Textiles, in conjunction with the National Industrial Hemp Council. This week on the Hemp Show, we’ll talk to the lead organizer of the event, Guy Carpenter. Unlike other events focused on industrial hemp, this summit centers squarely on hemp fiber and the industries that are growing up around fiber: textiles, apparel, denim, upholstery, non-wovens, construction, hempcrete, insulation, acoustic panels, automotive, biocomposites,...
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This week’s episode of the Lancaster Farming Industrial Hemp Podcast unfolds in three acts, each exploring a different facet of the growing hemp industry — from a café built on hemp-based food, to a hands-on construction training, to a linguistic deep dive into the meaning of the word hemp. Act 1: A Hemp Café in Mount Pleasant The show begins with a conversation with longtime hemp entrepreneur Cindy Amick, whose new endeavor is the Planet Hemp Café, which opens June 7 in Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania. The café aims to showcase the full potential of hemp in everyday life —from...
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This week on the Lancaster Farming Industrial Hemp Podcast, host Eric Hurlock wrestles with a question at the heart of the industry: What is hemp? The term has become increasingly diluted and controversial — especially in light of smokable flower and intoxicating cannabinoid markets, i.e. THC-a flower, Delta-8, etc. Lately, Eric has been saying that if you're growing floral hemp, maybe you're not actually a hemp farmer. But he might be wrong and this week he goes on a journey to find out. On this show, Eric speaks with three trusted voices on the cannabinoid side of the conversation to help...
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This week’s episode is a little different—just a quick teaser while we finish up next week’s show, which dives into the meaning of the word “hemp” and who gets to claim it. Host Eric Hurlock has been on a journey talking to people in the cannabinoid space—like Jeremy Klettke, Joe Ullman, and Ben Davies—to sort through some big questions about language, identity, and the hemp plant. In the meantime, we don’t want to leave you empty-handed. So here are a few instrumental tracks that Eric Hurlock has recorded over the years—music you’ve probably heard behind the podcast,...
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This week on the Hemp Podcast we’re looking at the 2025 Hemp Report from the USDA. The annual report attempts to provide a snapshot of the hemp industry, which, according to the report, is valued at $445 million — up 40% from last year. That sounds amazing, but what the numbers actually show is two completely different stories about two completely different industries: industrial hemp, i.e., fiber and grain, and floral hemp, i.e., cannabinoids, medicinal and recreational products and smokable hemp flower. As usual, the floral side of things takes up a lot of the conversation. After all,...
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They say hemp has 25,000 uses — but today, we’re focusing on just one: nonwovens. In this episode, Eric and Sophia dive into a hidden-yet-ubiquitous part of our daily lives with guest Mattie Mead from Hempitecture. From car door panels to carpet padding, nonwovens are everywhere — and mostly made from petroleum-based plastics. But they don’t have to be. Mattie explains how Hempitecture is scaling the use of natural fibers, like hemp, to reduce carbon emissions, create American manufacturing jobs and transform the built environment. This episode is a masterclass in sustainable...
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The NoCo Hemp Expo wrapped up its eleventh annual event last week in Estes Park, Colorado. The overall mood was optimistic, according to attendees, but there was an undercurrent of uncertainty and angst. The industry stands at a crossroads. Is it too dramatic (or melodramatic) to call it the battle for the soul of the industry? The word hemp means different things to different people, but for over a thousand years, the English word hemp meant one thing: the crop you farm at scale to produce raw materials for industry and food — ropes, sail cloth, paper, animal feed. But now, a quarter way...
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In this episode, regenerative industrial hemp farmer Steve Groff returns for a candid discussion about the current state of hemp farming, innovation and industry challenges in Pennsylvania. Groff shares insights on the unexpected bureaucratic setbacks he's faced, his pragmatic approach to political and economic changes and exciting developments in precision planting technology aimed at revolutionizing hemp and flax cultivation. Despite encountering funding hurdles and project delays, Groff remains optimistic, advocating strongly for unity and honest collaboration within the hemp community....
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When President Thomas Jefferson sent Meriwether Lewis and William Clark on the original American road trip in 1804, there weren’t many roads, so they took boats. Up the Missouri River and into the great unknown. One of their tasks was to collect and catalog detailed information about the natural world as they made their way westward. When the expedition returned in 1806, the American explorers brought with them a collection of over 200 plant samples that Lewis meticulously cataloged and preserved. The Corps of Discovery expedition ended in 1806, but for this collection of plants, the...
info_outlineThe NoCo Hemp Expo wrapped up its eleventh annual event last week in Estes Park, Colorado.
The overall mood was optimistic, according to attendees, but there was an undercurrent of uncertainty and angst.
The industry stands at a crossroads. Is it too dramatic (or melodramatic) to call it the battle for the soul of the industry?
The word hemp means different things to different people, but for over a thousand years, the English word hemp meant one thing: the crop you farm at scale to produce raw materials for industry and food — ropes, sail cloth, paper, animal feed.
But now, a quarter way through the 21st Century, the definition of hemp, some would say, has expanded, leading to new opportunities, while others might say the new definition of hemp has been co-opted and pejorative.
In this episode of the Lancaster Farming Industrial Hemp Podcast, host Eric Hurlock (with co-host Sophia Kurzius) gathers insights from 12 industry leaders, farmers, processors, advocates and policy experts to examine the defining issue of our time: the meaning of the word “hemp.”
From Joy Beckerman’s impassioned plea to protect the fiber and grain future of hemp, to Chris Fontes’ nuanced defense of the cannabinoid market, this episode captures the friction and common ground shaping hemp’s next chapter.
And what's this we hear about executive orders coming soon that will redefine the hemp space even further?
Plus, why you can’t tell the story of hemp in America without talking about hemp on tribal land. Hemp is a game changer for Indigenous communities.
Hempcrete, for instance, gives the people on reservations almost immediate access to addressing their housing needs in a way that was never available to them.
"Hemp is achievable, it’s circular, and the stories I hear from people in Indigenous communities are incredibly inspiring," said host Eric Hurlock.
On this episode, you’ll hear from:
- JJ Johnson – Founder of JJGro
- Kelly Burke – Director at Kifcure
- Joe Hickey – Co-founder of the Kentucky Hemp Growers Cooperative
- Ken Meyer – Founder of Complete Hemp Processing
- Morris Beegle – Founder of NoCo Hemp Expo and WAFBA
- Joy Beckerman – Principal at Hemp Ace International
- Dionne Holmquist – Director at Makoce Agriculture Development
- Ken Elliott – Founder of IND HEMP
- Jean Lotus – Publisher of Hemp Build Magazine
- Chris Fontes – CEO of High Spirits Beverages
- U.S. Hemp Authority – Chris Fontes is President
- Andrew Bish – President of the Hemp Feed Coalition
- Bish Enterprises – COO Andrew Bish
- Greg Wilson – Founder of HempWood
Topics Covered in This Episode
- Confusion over the definition of "hemp"
- Tension between cannabinoid and industrial sectors
- Misuse of the word “hemp” for intoxicating products
- Historical meaning and etymology of the word hemp
- Short-term profit vs. long-term industry building
- Cannabinoid products dominating policy conversations
- Farmer-focused versus consumer-focused markets
- Executive order rumors and Farm Bill delays
- Regulatory clarity and safety for consumers
- Indigenous sovereignty and tribal hemp regulation
- Shifting public perception through language
- Need for strong fiber and grain infrastructure
- Caution about unchecked cannabinoid products
- GRAS status and feed approval for hemp grain
- The role of big companies (Ford, Tesla, etc.) in scaling hemp
- Climate, soil, and sustainability potential of hemp
- Integrity, transparency, and labeling standards
- Disagreements within the industry over goals and methods
- Shared values across hemp sectors despite conflicts
- The importance of unity and focusing on common ground
- Joy Beckerman’s public stance against intoxicating derivatives
- The idea of a regulatory split between floral and industrial hemp
- Hemp’s potential for rural revitalization
- Making hemp “boring” again to normalize it as a commodity
Thanks to our sponsors:
IND HEMP
National Hemp Association
Forever Green
Production and audio engineering by Lancaster Farming Audio Team:
Sophia Kurzius, Justin Berger and Eric Hurlock.
Music by Tin Bird Shadow