Multisite Missteps (Part 1): It's Us Vs. Them feat. Carlos Cardenas - Episode 395
Release Date: 05/07/2025
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Multisite Missteps (Part 1): It's Us Vs. Them feat. Carlos Cardenas - Episode 395
The Unstuck Church Podcast
If you’ve got multiple locations and your team feels divided, this episode is for you. The dreaded “us vs. them” mentality can creep into any multisite church, creating unhealthy competition and fractured relationships between campus and central teams. Amy, Sean and special guest Carlos Cardenas, from Christ Fellowship Church in Miami, share their battle-tested wisdom on preventing and addressing this division before it derails your mission. You’ll learn practical steps to foster unity, establish clear decision-making frameworks and build the communication rhythms that keep everyone...
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Navigating Generosity in the Modern Church (feat. Doug Turner) - Episode 394
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In this episode, Amy sits down with Doug Turner, President of GenerosityOS, to talk about how church giving strategies have evolved (spoiler alert: episodic capital campaigns are so 2004). Doug brings decades of experience from helping churches like Willow Creek and Redeemer Presbyterian fund their vision, and he’s got some fresh insights on why year-round generosity and vision clarity are the new power couple in church finance. If you’re tired of the same old “pass the plate and pray” approach, this conversation is for you. Doug unpacks why traditional capital campaigns are shifting,...
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When Church Finances Feel Like Mission Impossible (feat. George Kamel) - Episode 393
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Wise and Foolish Church Budgeting - Episode 390
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Budgeting. Giving. Financial health. Money is often a taboo topic in churches. But what if we flipped the script? Money shouldn't be a source of anxiety—it should be a tool for mission. In this new series, Amy and Sean and some special guests will help church leaders develop a healthier relationship with church finances. From practical budgeting strategies to creating a culture of biblical generosity, we'll walk through how to align your financial practices with your ministry vision without the awkwardness that typically accompanies "money talks" in church. In the first episode, Sean and Amy...
info_outlineIf you’ve got multiple locations and your team feels divided, this episode is for you. The dreaded “us vs. them” mentality can creep into any multisite church, creating unhealthy competition and fractured relationships between campus and central teams.
Amy, Sean and special guest Carlos Cardenas, from Christ Fellowship Church in Miami, share their battle-tested wisdom on preventing and addressing this division before it derails your mission. You’ll learn practical steps to foster unity, establish clear decision-making frameworks and build the communication rhythms that keep everyone rowing in the same direction.
Whether you’re just starting your multisite journey or need to course-correct an existing divide, this conversation delivers the straight talk you need to build a healthy multisite culture.
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