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Lessons From The Cockpit

Release Date: 03/28/2024

Episode #119: KC-135 Stratotanker Down in Operation Epic Fury show art Episode #119: KC-135 Stratotanker Down in Operation Epic Fury

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🎙️ Episode 119 – When Tankers Collide: A Hard Day for the KC-135 Community. Welcome to Episode 119 of the Lessons from the Cockpit podcast. I’m your host, Mark Hasara — retired Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons Officer, and a veteran of four wars. For over 60 years, aviation has been my passion. I spent my career flying the KC-135 Stratotanker around the world, supporting combat missions and doing the job most people never see: Passing gas to airplanes in the middle of the night… in the middle of a war. If you’re watching the news about air operations around Iran, what you’re...

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Episode #120: Rob Episode #120: Rob "Z-Man" Zettel, the American MiG Pilot

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🚨 SECRET MiGs tangling in Area 51? This is how we learned to win.  Realistic training with incredible results on the battlefield! Welcome to Episode 120 of the Lessons from the Cockpit Show! I’m your host, Mark Hasara—retired Air Force KC-135 Weapons Officer—and for over 60 years, I’ve lived and breathed aviation. This episode pulls back the curtain on one of the most top-secret units in Air Force history. Why is the U.S. the 500-pound gorilla in air-to-air combat? Very few nations want to tangle with the buzzsaw created by American air superiority aircraft, their pilots, and...

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Episode #113: Strategy and Tactics for the Surge with Joe Katuzeinski show art Episode #113: Strategy and Tactics for the Surge with Joe Katuzeinski

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🎙️ Episode – Lessons from the Cockpit Welcome to another mission-ready episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m your host Lt. Col. Mark Hasara, retired Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and aviation fanatic for over 60 years. Strap in for this one—because we’re bringing serious airpower experience to the table. Joining me today is one of the smartest Air Force officers I’ve ever worked with—Lt. Col. Joe “TAZZ” Katuzeinski. He and I go way back to our Weapons and Tactics days at Kadena Air Base in Okinawa in the '90s. Since then, TAZZ has led combat...

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Episode #112: When do you CEASE FIRE? show art Episode #112: When do you CEASE FIRE?

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🎙️ Episode 112 – How Do You Know When to Stop the Fight? Welcome back to another airpower-packed episode of Lessons from the Cockpit! I’m your host Lt. Col. Mark Hasara, retired KC-135 Weapons Officer and Joint Specialty Officer. For 60 years, I’ve lived and breathed aviation. Today we are going to talk about a very tough aspect of planning for war! Here’s the question I’ve been getting all week: “Mark, how do you know when it’s time to stop shooting?” How does a war end? Who decides when the mission is complete? And what happens if we stop too late—or too soon? This...

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Episode #111: Operation Rising Lion and US Response Options show art Episode #111: Operation Rising Lion and US Response Options

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🎙️ Episode 111 – Operation Rising Lion: Israel’s Knockout Blow to Iran! Strap in for the 111th episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m Mark Hasara, retired Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and the guy who’s been obsessed with aviation for over 60 years.   This episode dives into one of the most aggressive and precise modern air campaigns we’ve seen in decades—Operation Rising Lion. The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) just delivered a massive punch to Iran’s military command, nuclear program scientists, religious leaders, and ballistic missile...

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Episode #110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready? show art Episode #110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready?

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🎙️ Episode 110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready? Welcome to the 110th episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m Mark Hasara, former Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and author of Tanker Pilot. For 60 years, aviation has been my world—from flying gas station in the sky to mission planning at the highest levels of command. This episode is a battle cry. 💥 Ukraine Just Changed the Air Warfare Game Over the weekend, Ukraine launched one of the boldest moves we’ve ever seen in modern air warfare: a long-range drone swarm strike...

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Episode #109 – From MiG-21s to the A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Major Joszph “Boarat” Jonas show art Episode #109 – From MiG-21s to the A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Major Joszph “Boarat” Jonas

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🎙️ EPISODE 109 – From MiG-21 to A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Lt Col Joszph “Boarat” Jonas Welcome back to Lessons from the Cockpit, the show that brings you stories and lessons learned from aviators who've been there, done that, and brought the jet home. I’m Mark Hasara—KC-135 instructor pilot, Air Force Weapons School grad, author of Tanker Pilot, and your host for Episode 109. This one’s going to hit you right between the afterburners. ✈️ From Opposing Forces to Brothers-in-Arms My guest is Cliff Wilson, an Air Force C-141 Starlifter driver and UPT instructor in...

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Episode #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME. show art Episode #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME.

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🎙️ EPISODE #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME Strap in and listen up, warriors. Welcome to Episode 108 of the Lessons from the Cockpit Show. I’m Lt Col Mark Hasara, USAF (Ret.)—KC-135 pilot, Weapons School grad, Joint Specialty Officer, and your host for this mission. I just got back from Air Refueling Systems Advisory Group or ARSAG 2025 at Planet Hollywood in Vegas—a gathering of the best and sharpest minds in global air refueling planning and operations. Senior leaders from the USAF, Royal Air Force, and RAAF, and...

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Episode #107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek “Woody” Oaks show art Episode #107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek “Woody” Oaks

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🎙️ Episode 107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying at Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek “Woody” Oaks. Welcome aboard the 107th sortie of the Lessons from the Cockpit Show I’m Lt Col Mark Hasara, USAF (Ret.), KC-135 Weapons Officer and your pilot for today’s mission. I’ve flown jets, built war plans, and stayed hopelessly addicted to aviation for over 60 years. This week? You're in for one hell of a ride. After two attempts, we finally locked in this high-value target: Col. Derek “Woody” Oaks, a pilot who flew both ends of the Air Force spectrum—from hauling cargo in the...

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Episode #104: Black Jets and Gucci Birds with Retired Lt Col Mike Ethridge show art Episode #104: Black Jets and Gucci Birds with Retired Lt Col Mike Ethridge

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Welcome to Episode 104 of Lessons from the Cockpit! I’m Mark Hasara, former KC-135 pilot, author of Tanker Pilot: Lessons from the Cockpit, and a lifelong aviation fanatic. For over 60 years, aviation has been my passion, and this show brings you stories from the cockpit, the mission planning room, and beyond. This week, I sit down with Mike Ethridge, a longtime friend and fellow Air Force aviator. We met as cadets at BYU’s ROTC Detachment 855, and he went on to fly the KC-10A Extender, KC-135s and every Boeing airframe Delta Airlines has flown around the world. What’s in This...

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Welcome to the seventy-eighth episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I'm your host Mark Hasara, retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, KC-135 pilot, and author of the book Tanker Pilot.

In the second episode with Navy Captain Bo Smith he explains Iron Hand missions, the methods and weapons the US Navy used to destroy Surface to Air Missile or SAM sites defending North Vietnam. Bo and his VA-82 Marauders A-7C Corsair II pilots developed tactics with the A-7C's improved avionics during the LINEBACKER I and LINEBACKER II air campaigns at the close of the Vietnam War. Leaving the Marauders Bo attended school in England, and he talks of developing great relationships with our allied leaders while attending classes.

This episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show is financially supported by Wall Pilot, custom aviation art for the walls of your home, office, or hanger. The aircraft profiles are extremely detailed, the arming t-handles and stenciling on the missiles clearly readable. Famous and favorite aircraft are captured in profile illustrations, printed on vinyl you can peel off and stick to any flat surface. Wall Pilot can create custom aircraft profiles of your favorite aircraft, with your name on  the canopy rail, specific tail number, and favorite weapons load. These profiles keep the show going so visit www.wallpilot.com and order one or two Ready-to-Print or a custom profile.

Bo Smith was assigned to Attack Squadron VA-15 Gold Tails flying Douglas A-4Cs off the USS Intrepid during his second 1967 Rolling Thunder Vietnam tour. This print of a  VA-15 Douglas A-4C Skyhawk is Bo's personal jet, armed with an AGM-45 Shrike anti-radiation missile which homes in on North Vietnamese radars, destroying the antenna and control van.

During Bo's third Vietnam cruise he flew with VA-82 Marauders off the USS AMERICA in the new Ling-Temco-Vought A-7C Corsair II, designed with a new computer bombing system and the first attack aircraft with a Heads Up Display in the cockpit. This  VA-82 A-7C Corsair II is armed for an IRON HAND mission carrying Mk20 ROCKEYE cluster bombs and the AGM-45 Shrike anti-radiation missile.

The Marauders were chosen for the famous Than Hoa Railway Bridge strike on 6 October 1972 carrying AGM-62 Walleye tv guided bombs. Walleyes launched by LCDR Leighton "Snuffy" Smith and his wingman Ltjg Marv Baldwin destroyed the center pillar supporting the Than Hoa bridge, causing the center span to collapse. LCDR Leighton Smith retired as a four star Admiral and commander of all Naval Forces in Europe.

Assigned an exchange tour with the US Air Force, Bo traveled to McConnell AFB as an instructor pilot in the Republic F-105 Thunderchief, training new aircrews how to fly the Thud. Although Bo did not fly the Wild Weasel mission, the counterpart to the Navy's IRON HAND role, this F-105G Wild Weasel was assigned to the 333rd Tac Fighter Squadron flying out of Takhli Royal Thai Air Base. This Thud shot down three North Vietnamese Air Force MiG-17s during the Rolling Thunder air campaign. 

The A-7 Corsair II ended its combat career flying IRON HAND missions over Iraq in the 1991 Desert Storm air campaign. This VA-72 Blue Hawks A-7E is armed with the best anti-radiation missile made, the Texas Instrument AGM-88 High Speed Anti Radiation Missile or HARM.

Want a great place to learn about Navy attack aviation? Bo created in my opinion the best electronic memoirs of his experiences on the web. His great website can be found at Bo Smith. He has terrific pictures and even some of the maps showing the air defenses around the Hanoi and Haiphong areas. 

Thanks for downloading and listening to this episodes of the Lessons from the Cockpit show. This and previous episodes can be found at the Lessons from the Cockpit webpage found here. Please sign up for the All Ranks Club, receiving benefits like unpublished chapters to the book Tanker Pilot and very soon Virtual Bar Night, a Zoom meeting where we all get together with a special guest to talk about aviation and answer questions. If you want to see an example, go to my TikTok page and watch the four recent LIVE episodes doing Q&A and just telling some cool stories. We are also working on a coin All Ranks Club members will receive for signing up.

Next week's episode will be with Captain John Markle, F-4 MiG-21 FISHBED killer with the famous 55th Tac Fighter Squadron, the Triple Nickel!