Elizabeth McDougal: Gebchak Yoginis, Part Three
Love & Liberation with Olivia Clementine
Release Date: 04/11/2025
Love & Liberation with Olivia Clementine
Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo is a bhikṣuṇī, author and founder of the Dongyu Gatsal Ling Nunnery in Himachal Pradesh, India. She also spent twelve years living and practicing in a remote cave in the Himalayas. Today's timenotes: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:17 8th Khamtrul Rinpoche 00:06:45 Togden and togdenma (yogi and yogini) lineage and history 00:8:05 16th Karmapa and Khampagar 00:09:30 Requests leading to the Togdenma revival 00:10:36 Jetsunma's cave retreat in Lahaul 00:14:15 Finding proper Togdenma mentors 00:21:22 Togden Acho 00:24:24 Becoming officially Togdenma 00:28:31...
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Today’s episode is the final part of three parts ~ 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:49 Signs, visions, dreams 00:12:00 Protector land spirits 00:16:00 Tests, conceptual collapse and faith 00:20:00 Meditation boxes 0023:30 Sky burial 00:28:00 Sri Lanka vipassana reform 00:29:30 Khenpo Jigme Phuntsok and Larung Gar 00:32:00 Modernity, realization and tacit knowledge 00:39:00 Old world preservation 00:43:50 Yidam neuroscience and dilution 00:46:00 Changes in education system 00:49:00 Yogini tulkus and titles 00:57:00 The Gebchak way, peer-pressure and self-responsibility 01:03:00 Becoming a...
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Today’s episode is part two of three parts. ~ Time notes: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:15 Subtle body, mind and prana 00:11:30 Yidam and reflections of the universe 00:13:40 Tsa-lung and trulkhor 00:18:51 Modernization influence on dedication, asceticism and health. 00:24:00 Chu Rey, wet sheet ceremony 00:31:00 Tsa-lung lama Jamtsen Chodron 00:33:40 Chudlen retreats 00:37:00 Mundane and sacred, collective and individual 00:39:00 Togal and trekchod 100 day winter practice 00:46:00 On memorization and reading as a means of realization 00:50:00 Tantric practice form of learning 01:00:00 Yogin...
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Today's episode is part one of three parts that will be shared over the coming weeks. Time notes: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:51 Elizabeth’s early years at Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo’s retreat place, and about the Togdens and Togdenmas 00:07:14 What led Elizabeth to Gebchak gonpa. 00:09:00 The initial meeting between Wandrak Rinpoche and the Gebchak yoginis 00:15:00 How Elizabeth spent her time at Gebchak gonpa 00:18:40 Nangchen as a fertile ground for yogis 00:23:00 Gebchak founder Tsang-Yang Gyamtso & the Rime period 00:29:37 The way of the yogin scholar 00:37:00 The first Tsokyni...
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Watch the tour here: ~ Today we meet at the Tibetan Medical & Astro Institute Museum and receive a brief tour from Dr. Kalsang Youdon and Kelsang Chodon. Time notes: 00:00:46 Tibetan medicines and instruments 00:06:17 Tibetan medicine paintings 00:09:16 History of the re-established Men-Tsee-Khang Institute 00:11:23 Astrology: Indigenous Tibetan, elemental, and Kala Chakra astrology. ~ Men-Tsee-Khang Institute Podcast website & transcripts Enjoy these conversations? Scroll down to Review & Ratings.
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:49 Signs, visions, dreams
00:12:00 Protector land spirits
00:16:00 Tests, conceptual collapse and faith
00:20:00 Meditation boxes
0023:30 Sky burial
00:28:00 Sri Lanka vipassana reform
00:29:30 Khenpo Jigme Phuntsok and Larung Gar
00:32:00 Modernity, realization and tacit knowledge
00:39:00 Old world preservation
00:43:50 Yidam neuroscience and dilution
00:46:00 Changes in education system
00:49:00 Yogini tulkus and titles
00:57:00 The Gebchak way, peer-pressure and self-responsibility
01:03:00 Becoming a translator
01:07:00 Disrobing
01:10:00 Historical rarity of terms Rigpa and dzogchen
01:12:00 Character of yoginis and aspirations
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Listen to Part One here:
On Gebchak's History & Yogic Activity in the Realm of the Meditators https://oliviaclementine.com/elizabet...
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Listen to Part Two here:
On Embodied Practitioners of Tsa-lung Inner Fire & Dzogchen
https://oliviaclementine.com/elizabeth-mcdougal-gebchak-yoginis-part-two/
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Podcast website & transcripts
https://oliviaclementine.com/podcasts
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About Elizabeth
Elizabeth McDougal, known also as Tenzin Chozom, grew up in Western Canada and then trained as a Buddhist nun in India and on the Tibetan Plateau for seventeen years. Towards the end of her time as a nun – she studied a Masters of Indian philosophy at Banaras Hindu University and then a PhD (2021) at the University of Sydney. Her research focuses on the modernisation of Tibetan Buddhist practice lineages and on pedagogy as a crucial bridge in translating pre-modern wisdom traditions to the modern world. Elizabeth currently lives in Australia with her human and animal family where she lectures at Nan Tien Institute in applied Buddhist studies. She continues to serve as a Tibetan-to-English translator for Gebchak Wangdrak Rinpoche and other practice lineage lamas. Elizabeth published a book in 2024 called “The Words and World of Gebchak Nunnery: Tantric Meditation in Context.”
Images included:
1: Of two Gebchak yoginis by Jerome Raphalen
2: Yoginis looking out in ceremony to a sacred feminine vulva form in the landscape