MacVoices #25275: Live! - Apple at $4 Trillion, A Lawsuit Loss, and App Tracking Transparency

The MacVoices Live! panel discusses Apple’s climb to the $4 trillion valuation, its ongoing dominance, and the company’s resilience under Tim Cook. Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, Web Bixby, Jim Rea, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, and Eric Bolden also examine Apple’s UK App Store lawsuit and possible $2 billion penalty, plus privacy concerns over potential changes to App Tracking Transparency in Europe. Thoughts on user data tracking, privacy education, and consumer complacency are all part of the discussion on Apple’s security efforts. 

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Show Notes:

Chapters:

[0:00] Opening – Apple hits $4 trillion milestone
[1:00] Panel introductions and Halloween banter
[4:45] Apple’s market value and leadership under Tim Cook
[6:00] Reflections on Apple’s past struggles and rise
[9:00] Teen loyalty and Apple ecosystem dominance
[10:20] Personal investment stories and stock insights
[13:15] Earnings expectations and market volatility
[15:49] Apple loses UK App Store case discussion
[17:40] Europe privacy laws and tracking transparency debate
[20:11] Public understanding of data tracking
[23:06] Everyday privacy concerns and consumer behavior
[24:06] Show close and support information

Links:

Apple Hits $4 Trillion Market Value, Joining Nvidia and Microsoft
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/28/apple-4-trillion-market-cap/

Apple loses UK App Store monopoly case, penalty might near $2 billion
https://9to5mac.com/2025/10/23/apple-loses-uk-app-store-monopoly-case-penalty-might-near-2-billion/

Apple Warns App Tracking Transparency Could Be Disabled in Europe
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/23/apple-app-tracking-transparency-europe/

Guests:

Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, but prefers Bluesky.

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at [e-mail], on Mastodon at @[e-mail], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[e-mail].

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[e-mail] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.com/jgamet.

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[e-mail].

Dr. Marty Jencius has been an Associate Professor of Counseling at Kent State University since 2000. He has over 120 publications in books, chapters, journal articles, and others, along with 200 podcasts related to counseling, counselor education, and faculty life. His technology interest led him to develop the counseling profession ‘firsts,’ including listservs, a web-based peer-reviewed journal, The Journal of Technology in Counseling, teaching and conferencing in virtual worlds as the founder of Counselor Education in Second Life, and podcast founder/producer of CounselorAudioSource.net and ThePodTalk.net. Currently, he produces a podcast about counseling and life questions, the Circular Firing Squad, and digital video interviews with legacies capturing the history of the counseling field. This is also co-host of The Vision ProFiles podcast. Generally, Marty is chasing the newest tech trends, which explains his interest in A.I. for teaching, research, and productivity. Marty is an active presenter and past president of the NorthEast Ohio Apple Corp (NEOAC).

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @[e-mail] on Mastodon.

Guy Serle, best known for being one of the co-hosts of the MyMac Podcast, sincerely apologizes for anything he has done or caused to have happened while in possession of dangerous podcasting equipment. He should know better but being a blonde from Florida means he's probably incapable of understanding the damage he has wrought. Guy is also the author of the novel, The Maltese Cube. You can follow his exploits on Twitter, catch him on Mac to the Future on Facebook, at @[e-mail], and find everything at VertShark.com.

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