Anat Admati on the Perils of Corporate Debt and How COVID-19 Relief Efforts Have Gone Wrong
Macro Musings with David Beckworth
Release Date: 05/06/2020
Macro Musings with David Beckworth
Mark Blyth is a professor of international economics at Brown University. In Mark’s first appearance on the show, he discusses his new book Inflation: A Guide for Users and Losers, the concept of angrynomics, a new way to look at price controls, demographic decline, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on June 4th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow Mark on X: Follow the show on X: Check out our Macro Musings to David's new BTS YouTube Channel Timestamps 00:00:00...
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Sam Schulhofer-Wohl is a senior vice president and the senior advisor to President Lorie Logan of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. Sam returns to the show to discuss recent macroeconomic conferences in the context of changes in the Treasury market and with central bank operating systems around the globe. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on May 27th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Check out our Macro Musings to David's new BTS YouTube Channel Timestamps...
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Andy Levin is an advisor to many central banks around the world and professor of economics at Dartmouth College. Andy returns to the show for a special bonus episode to discuss his pervious appearance and accompanying policy brief where he calls for an independent inspector general at the Federal Reserve. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on June 10th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Join the new Macro Musings ! Join the Macro Musings Check out our Macro Musings to David's...
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Sign up for ! Matthew Pines is the executive director of the Bitcoin Policy institute. Matthew returns to the show to discuss the future of Bitcoin as a strategic reserve, US stablecoin regulation, geopolitics under Trump, monetary policy at the Fed, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on May 16th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow Matthew Pines on X: Follow the show on X: Check out our Macro Musings to David's new BTS YouTube Channel Timestamps 00:00:00 - Intro...
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Peter Conti-Brown is a historian and legal scholar of the Federal Reserve System, and an associate professor at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. Sean Vanatta is a senior lecturer in financial history and policy at the University of Glasgow. Peter and Sean join the show to discuss their new book titled: Private Finance, Public Power: A History of Bank Supervision in America, as well as how powerlifting can be analogized in macroeconomics, and the implications of Trump v. Wilcox. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded...
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George Selgin is a senior fellow and director emeritus at the Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives at the Cato Institute, as well as the author of the new book titled False Dawn: The New Deal and the Promise of Recovery, 1933-1947. George returns to the show to discuss the complicated economic history of the Great Depression, how that history has led us to the macro-events of 2008, 2010, and 2020, how we can apply lessons from the Great Depression to macroeconomic policy to the current moment, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded...
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Daniel Bunn is the president and CEO of the Tax Foundation. In Daniel’s first appearance on the show, he discusses the history of tax models, the threat that tariffs make to the US economy, where we currently stand with budget reconciliation, how he would fix the tax code if he was president, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on May 2nd, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Follow Daniel on X: Check out our new AI chatbot: the ! Join the new Macro Musings ! Join the Macro...
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Luca Fornaro is a senior researcher at CREI and professor at both UPF and the Barcelona School of Economics. In Luca’s first appearance on the show, he discusses his expansive work on, hysteresis, stagnation traps, endogenous growth, aggregate demand policies, the medium run, population growth and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on April 23th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Follow Luca on X: Check out our new AI chatbot: the ! Join the new Macro Musings ! Join the...
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Adam Ozimek is the Chief Economist at the Economic Innovation Group. Adam returns to the show to discuss the importance of reforming the high-skilled immigration process, the main bottlenecks with our current green card system, the glory days of economics blogging, how to revitalize the American heartland, Trump’s current trade war, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on April 15th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Follow Adam on X: Check out our new AI chatbot: the ! Join the...
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Skanda Amarnath is the executive director of Employ America. Skanda returns to the show to discuss the standing of Humphrey’s Executor, the prospects for the Fed’s Framework Review, the case for NGDP Targeting, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on April 16th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow the show on X: Follow Skanda on X: Check out our new AI chatbot: the ! Join the new Macro Musings ! Join the Macro Musings Check out our Macro Musings to David's new BTS YouTube...
info_outlineAnat Admati is a professor of finance and economics at Stanford University, and is well-known for her work on leveraging debt in our financial system and how it makes our economy more susceptible to shocks. She’s also a co-author of the popular book, *The Banker’s New Clothes: What Went Wrong with Banking and What to Do About It*. Anat joins Macro Musings again to talk about the COVID-19 crisis from the debt perspective, how the Fed and Congress have responded so far, and how their relief efforts should have been focused differently.
The transcript for the episode can be found here.
Anat’s Twitter: @anatadmati
Anat’s website: https://admati.people.stanford.edu/
Related Links:
Bonus segment with Anat: https://youtu.be/4xHmmgoURqg
*The Banker’s New Clothes: What’s Wrong with Banking and What to Do about It* by Anat Admati and Martin Hellwig
https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691162386/the-bankers-new-clothes
*The Leverage Ratchet Effect* by Anat Admati, Peter DeMarzo, Martin Hellwig, and Paul Pfleiderer
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jofi.12588
*Macrofinancial History and the New Business Cycle Facts* by Oscar Jorda, Mortiz Schularick, and Alan Taylor
https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/files/wp2016-23.pdf
*Coronavirus Crisis Lays Bare the Risks of Financial Leverage, Again” by Martin Wolf
https://www.ft.com/content/098dcd60-8880-11ea-a01c-a28a3e3fbd33
*House of Debt: How They (And You) Caused the Great Recession, and How We Can Prevent It from Happening Again* by Atif Mian and Amir Sufi
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo20832545.html
*Collateral Frameworks: The Open Secret of Central Banks* by Kjell Nyborg
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/collateral-frameworks/DE8BACD87F364A66DD496F601BE92FE7
*Bankruptcy for Banks: A Sound Concept That Needs Fine-Tuning* by Mark Roe and David Skeel
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