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Dan Awrey on *Unbundling Banking, Payments and Money*

Release Date: 03/22/2021

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

Dan Awrey is a professor of Law at Cornell University and the author of the new book Beyond Banks: Technology, Regulation, and the Future of Money. Dan returns to the show to discuss his new book, the shadow monetary system, the case for markets to correct this problem, Gresham’s new law, his proposals for fixing the payments system, and much more. Check out the for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on January 13th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Follow David Beckworth on X: Follow Dan Awrey on X: Follow the show on X: Check out our Macro...

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

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Dan Awrey is a professor of law at Cornell Law School, a financial markets regulation scholar, and the editor of the Journal of Financial Regulation. Dan joins David on Macro Musings to discuss how to promote greater financial innovation, financial inclusion, and alleviate the “too big to fail” problem by safely unbundling banking, money, and payments in our financial system. Dan and David also go on to discuss tensions in the global shadow banking system, the history of how banks evolved to play such a central role in our financial system, how the law has reinforced this bundling of the banks’ roles, and much more.

Transcript of the episode can be found here.

Dan’s Twitter: @DanAwrey

Dan’s Cornell Law Profile: https://www.law.columbia.edu/faculty/daniel-awrey

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