Nathan Tankus on the Future of MMT and How to Avoid U.S. Debt Default
Macro Musings with David Beckworth
Release Date: 05/08/2023
Macro Musings with David Beckworth
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info_outlineNathan Tankus is a popular writer for a newsletter titled, *Notes on the Crises* and is the research director of the Modern Money Network. Nathan is also a returning guest to Macro Musings, and he rejoins the podcast to talk about modern monetary theory and the debt ceiling. Specifically, David and Nathan discuss the future of MMT, the case for minting the trillion dollar coin, the prospects of issuing Federal Reserve securities, the history of the Fed’s operating procedures, and a lot more.
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