Hanukkah: The Civil War We Forgot
Madlik Podcast – Disruptive Torah Thoughts on Judaism
Release Date: 12/17/2025
Madlik Podcast – Disruptive Torah Thoughts on Judaism
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info_outlineWas Hanukkah really a war of Jews vs. Greeks — or a Jewish civil war we chose to forget?
Was Hanukkah really Jews vs. Greeks — or a Jewish civil war we chose to bury under a story about oil?
In this episode of Madlik Disruptive Torah, Geoffrey Stern and Rabbi Adam Mintz revisit the Hanukkah story through the sources. From Maccabees I and the politics of Ptolemy vs. Antiochus, to the lone Talmudic mention of the oil miracle (Shabbat 21b), they show how a messy internal power struggle became a clean miracle narrative.
Key Takeaways
- Hanukah began as a Jewish civil war — not just Jews vs. Greeks.
- Each generation rewrites the Maccabees to fit its own battles.
- The shamash — the helper candle — may be Hanukkah’s real hero today.
Timestamps
[00:00] Hanukkah beyond oil and miracles
[03:12] Why the Talmud barely explains Hanukkah
[05:01] The forgotten Jewish civil war
[07:22] Hellenists vs. Maccabees reexamined
[09:48] Power, empires, and internal factions
[12:30] Modern culture wars through Hanukkah
[14:55] Why the rabbis hid the conflict
[17:05] Hillel vs. Shammai as metaphor
[19:10] The shamash in Israeli children’s stories
[23:40] Hanukkah as a model for unity
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