Infinite Banking: The Wealth Hack the Banks Don’t Want You to Know w/ Stephen Nagy & Brian Fouts
Release Date: 04/10/2025
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info_outlineMost people do what they’re told when it comes to money—get a job, stash cash in a 401(k), and hope there’s enough to retire someday. But what do they get? Debt. Stress. Zero control over their time and money.
Meanwhile, banks are making a fortune off their hard work. Savings get eaten up by taxes, inflation, and market crashes. Retirement accounts come with rules, restrictions, and penalties. And after years of grinding, most people still feel stuck, just trying to stay afloat.
What if there was a way out?
The Infinite Banking Concept flips the script. It’s not just about making money—it’s about keeping control. It’s a system that lets you take charge of your cash, grow wealth on your terms, and stop relying on banks that profit off you. With Infinite Banking, you decide how and when to use your money, without waiting until retirement or jumping through hoops.
How will Infinite Banking transform your life? In this episode, special guest host and Money School partner Stephen Nagy talks to trainer and entrepreneur Brian Fouts. Brian talks about his journey, how he found Infinite Banking, and how it changed the trajectory of his life.
Guest Bio
Stephen Nagy is a real estate and financial professional, business and investing consultant, speaker and trainer, and partner at The Money School. Stephen Nagy left his career as a Personal Financial Advisor in 2007 to pursue his dream of being an entrepreneur and Real Estate Investor. Many years later, he has never looked back, becoming a lifelong student of business and investing, implementing strategies learned, gaining valuable personal experience, and following his passion of working with and sharing with others. Stephen has spoken on hundreds of stages across the United States and worked with thousands of students, helping them realize and achieve their financial goals. Over those travels, and through attending several Masterminds each year, Stephen has built an extensive network of other like-minded individuals, creating a community that we call the “Campfire”. Stephen is dedicated to helping his students & clients learn financial education, how to regain control of their money, and how to achieve their dreams by solving their money problems. Stephen now shares his experience, education, and strategies through weekly webinar trainings, Live events, and working with clients one-on-one. Find Stephen on Facebook.
Brian Fouts got his start in life following the traditional path… went to school, got a corporate job, saved money into a 401k, and got into debt because that's what everyone else around him was doing. Yet after almost 15 years in the rat race, he lost more than $500,000 to corrupt financial planners and institutions. He was fed up with the rat race and the broken traditional path that did not provide financial security for his family. After leaving his corporate job and successfully investing in numerous assets including real estate, private lending, and online businesses, as well as growing a financial education business to the Inc.5000 list, Brian discovered the Infinite Banking Concept almost 10 years ago. After using this strategy in his own life, Brian made it his mission to help others gain back control of their money and financial life with this strategy. After impacting over 60,000 clients and individuals through his various companies and ventures, Brian continues to help others discover how real wealth and freedom can be attained through the Infinite Banking Concept. Visit https://brian.beyourownbanker.com/ to book an appointment with Brian.
About Your Host
From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.
His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.
Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.
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