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#25: You Can Do It with Susan Baragwanath

LifeWise

Release Date: 07/27/2026

#25: You Can Do It with Susan Baragwanath show art #25: You Can Do It with Susan Baragwanath

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Meet Susan Baragwanath, a remarkable woman who has spent her life quietly, yet with unshakeable determination, challenging one of society's most dangerous beliefs — the idea that there is "them" and "us": those who deserve a good education and those who do not. At the heart of Susan's work is a profound understanding that human potential is deeply affected by context — by the environment we are born into, the opportunities we are given, and whether someone truly sees us.


KEY THEMES

Human Rights, No Them and Us, Equal Opportunities, Self-Expression, Ownership and Responsibility, Fundamental Needs, Human Potential, Context is Key, Resilience, Belonging, Women's Leadership.


BOOK

The Red X: The Story of He Huarahi Tamariki ("A Chance for Children"), New Zealand's First School for Teenage Parents by Susan Baragwanath.


QUOTES

  1. "There's nothing more frightening than ignorance in action." — Goethe

  2. "I could never have dreamed that the students would end up being the strongest party. I thought it was going to be me. I mean, I can direct traffic, but I think I said on one of the television programmes, I'm just the conductor of the orchestra." — Susan Baragwanath


ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

Susan has been fortunate to receive the encouragement and support of many remarkable people throughout her life and career. Two deserve special acknowledgement, referred to informally during the conversation rather than by their professional titles:

The Honourable Sir David Baragwanath KNZM KC — Susan's husband, referred to simply as "David" during the podcast — is one of New Zealand's most distinguished jurists. Appointed Queen's Counsel in 1983, he went on to serve as a Judge of both the High Court and Court of Appeal of New Zealand, and has served as President of the United Nations Special Tribunal for Lebanon and as a member of the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.

The Rt Hon. The Baroness Hooper — referred to simply as "Gloria" during the podcast — is a highly respected British parliamentarian and former UK Government Minister. A Member of the House of Lords for nearly four decades, she has devoted her career to public service, international diplomacy, and strengthening relations across Latin America.


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