Episode 346: Transforming Adversity into Opportunity in Real Estate, with Athena Brownson
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
Release Date: 07/23/2025
Episode 372: How to Build Wealth and Cut Your Taxes Through Real Estate Investing, with Niyi Adewole
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode, Gary is joined by Niyi Adewole, a former Fortune 500 Director of Strategic Accounts who made the leap from corporate leadership into full-time real estate entrepreneurship. Today, Niyi dedicates his work to helping both new and experienced investors achieve financial freedom through strategic real estate investing. He currently manages a portfolio of 25+ long-term rental units and 10 short-term rentals, and brings real-world experience on how to scale intelligently while balancing risk, cash flow, and long-term growth. Niyi shares insights from his own journey—what it took...
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Episode 371: How to Build Wealth Through Mobile Home & Land Packages for Real Estate Investors, with Robert Howell
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, host Gary Wilson sits down with Robert Howell, affordable housing investor and founder of Howell & Sons, to unpack one of the most overlooked—but impactful—real estate niches today: mobile home parks and land-home package investing. Robert shares how he pivoted from global event marketing during COVID into real estate investing, starting with affordable housing and eventually scaling into mobile home parks and HUD-certified land-home developments. What began as a necessity quickly evolved into a mission-driven business focused on...
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Episode 370: How to Build Consistent Cash Flow for Out-of-State Real Estate Investors, with Lindsay Davis
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast, I sit down with Lindsay Davis, a seasoned real estate professional with deep experience helping investors build cash-flowing portfolios beyond their local markets. Lindsay shares why out-of-state investing has become one of the most effective ways for investors to achieve consistent, predictable cash flow, especially when local markets no longer make financial sense. We discuss how investors can confidently buy properties in markets they don’t live in by focusing on fundamentals, systems, and the right local teams. Throughout the...
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Episode 369: How to Use AI and Hard Assets to Build Wealth for Real Estate Investors, with Ben Reinberg
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, I sit down with Ben Reinberg—commercial real estate expert, investor, and founder of Alliance CGC. With over 250 years of combined leadership experience, Ben is a proven authority on building wealth through hard assets and AI-driven strategies. Ben shares his 32-year journey in commercial real estate, revealing how he combines traditional investing principles with cutting-edge AI tools, data analytics, and digital systems to scale investments, maximize returns, and reduce risk. Whether you’re investing in multifamily properties,...
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Episode 368: How to Unlock Better Loan Options for Real Estate Investors, Agents, and Veterans, with Terry Roberts
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, Gary sits down with Terry Roberts, a seasoned mortgage broker with over 15 years of lending experience and a deep specialization in VA loans, investor financing, and non-traditional mortgage strategies. Terry shares his powerful journey—from homelessness, being a high school dropout, and a teenage father, to serving nine years in the U.S. Marine Corps and ultimately becoming a nationwide mortgage broker with access to 160+ lenders. His unique background in military leadership, business operations, and mortgage innovation gives him a...
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How Real Estate Agents Win More Deals with New Construction, With Justin Bosak
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Cash Flow Podcast, host Gary Wilson sits down with Justin Bozak, a top-producing real estate broker, team leader, and new construction specialist based in New Jersey’s Jersey Shore market. Justin is the founder of a rapidly growing brokerage with three offices, over 160 agents, and a fully built in-house support team, making him a true operator—not just a salesperson. Justin shares his unconventional journey from managing fast-food restaurants in the late 1990s to becoming a respected leader in residential sales, team building, and new construction real...
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How to Scale Your Real Estate Business Across Multiple States for Agents Using Plug-and-Play Systems and AI, with Allan Burns
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
n this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, Gary Wilson reconnects with Allan Burns—a New Jersey real estate broker, team leader, and systems-driven entrepreneur who has mastered the art of building plug-and-play real estate operations. From expanding across multiple states to integrating AI into daily workflows, Allan breaks down exactly how modern agents can scale faster than ever—without burning out, without guesswork, and without franchise-level overhead. Allan shares his early beginnings working outdoors in construction before discovering real estate as a pathway to...
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How to Build Predictable Cash Flow for Real Estate Investors with Mike “Big Mike” Zlotnik
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, I sit down with Mike Zlotnik, widely known as “Big Mike,” CEO of TF Management Group, LLC, full-time real estate investor since 2009, and host of the Big Mike Fund Podcast, ranked in the Top 10% of podcasts globally. With a background as a mathematician and tech professional, Mike brings a disciplined, numbers-first approach to real estate investing—focusing on risk-adjusted returns, fund structuring, and predictable income. Mike shares his journey from immigrating to the U.S. from Moldova (formerly part of the USSR), building a...
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Episode 364:How to Build Long-Term Cash Flow for Real Estate Investors,with Michael Pouliot
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, I sit down with Michael Pouliot, Chief Investment Officer of Carbon Real Estate Investments, founder of EON Capital Partners, and a private equity operator with over $1 billion in completed real estate transactions. Michael blends Wall Street training from J.P. Morgan and Merrill Lynch with real-world entrepreneurial execution, making him one of the most data-driven and operationally disciplined investors in the workforce housing space. Michael shares how he transitioned from the fixed-income desk on Wall Street to becoming a full-time...
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How to Build Cash Flow Fast for Real Estate Investors Using Subject-To Deals, with Chris Prefontaine
Massive Passive Cash Flow Podcast
In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, I sit down with Chris Prefontaine - creative financing expert, bestselling author, and founder of Smart Real Estate Coach. With 34+ years of hands-on investing experience, Chris shares how he rebuilt his real estate business after the 2008 crash by shifting to buying on terms—a strategy that allows investors to acquire properties without using their own cash, credit, or personally signing on bank loans. Chris breaks down why subject-to deals, 0% owner financing, and free-and-clear properties remain some of the most powerful tools for...
info_outlineAthena Brownson is a living testament to the power of resilience and reinvention. A former professional skier who endured nine knee surgeries and two neck operations, Athena’s greatest challenge came when she was diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease—a debilitating condition that left her bedridden for months. Yet, instead of letting these setbacks define her, Athena used them to fuel her purpose, transforming pain into strength and obstacles into opportunities.
Now a thriving entrepreneur and advocate for resilience, Athena empowers audiences to navigate life’s challenges with grit, authenticity, and purpose. She teaches how to embrace change, build balance, and align your career and life with your values. Drawing from her journey, Athena inspires others to redefine success, build their "why," and cultivate the mindset needed to overcome adversity and achieve meaningful growth.
What You Will Learn:
- Who is Athena Brownson?
- What was Athena's background before entering the real estate industry?
- How did Athena's experience as a professional skier affect her approach to real estate?
- What motivated Athena to shift from interior design to real estate?
- What challenges did Athena face in her early career in real estate?
- How does Athena describe the importance of relationships in her real estate business?
- What life lessons from athletics does Athena apply to her work in real estate?
- How does Athena's journey with health challenges shape her approach to business and life?
- How does Athena view the importance of community and support in navigating difficult times?
- What strategies does Athena use to maintain her motivation and focus, despite her health challenges?
- How does Athena's experience with adversity influence her approach to client relationships in real estate?
- How did Athena identify the need for an operations manager in her business?
- What are the key qualities Athena looks for when building her real estate team?
- How is the Denver real estate market currently performing, particularly in terms of inventory and buyer activity?
- How does Athena assess the opportunities available to investors in the current market?
- Athena shares her contact information so that everyone can reach her.
Additional Resources from Athena Brownson:
- Website: https://athenabrownsonrealtor.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/athenabrownsonrealtor/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/athenabrownsonrealtor/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AthenaBrownsonRealtor/
- Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@athenabrownson
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