Matt Likes Beer - Episode 19 - Fra-Gee-Lay

Episode 19 of Matt Likes Beer features a seasonal-yet-technical deep dive into Fragile, an Italian-style Pilsner from Heist Brewery in Charlotte, North Carolina. Named after the iconic “Fra-gee-lay” moment from A Christmas Story, this 4.5% lager uses Saphir hops and dry hopping to create a crisp, modern take on a growing craft beer substyle. 

Matt explores his history with Heist Brewery through Tavour, noting that while he’s enjoyed their beers before, this is his first experience with Fragile—and his first Italian Pilsner reviewed on the podcast. He also takes time to highlight Heist’s wide-ranging tap list, touching on the brewery’s diverse approach beyond the IPA-heavy norm. 

Because Italian Pilsner isn’t a standalone BJCP category, Matt walks listeners through how to properly judge it using BJCP’s suggested entry guidelines, evaluating the beer as a 34B Mixed-Style Beer with a German Pilsner base plus dry hopping. The review covers clarity, head retention, hop expression, bitterness levels, mouthfeel, and balance—along with a candid critique of BJCP’s notoriously difficult website navigation. 

Fragile earns a 36 out of 50 (Very Good), matching the previous episode’s score but illustrating an important distinction: judging to style versus drinking for enjoyment. While Matt finds the beer slightly restrained for a dry-hopped pilsner in competition terms, he makes it clear this is a beer he would happily order multiple times in a real-world setting—especially as a meal-friendly, refreshing lager with depth. 

With no beer reviews to roast, the episode closes with a festive twist: Matt reads brutal one-star reviews of A Christmas Story, turning the beer’s name into an excuse for some unexpectedly dark and hilarious holiday commentary.