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Serving love to manage depression and life with Natalie & Stuart McIntosh (NNP #52)

Release Date: 05/03/2019

"I am an Intensive Care doctor and today I feel scared" (NNP #72)

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The coronavirus pandemic is becoming a global catastrophe and in this episode Andrew talks about why we all need to do social distancing extremely well so we can reduce the number of deaths.

Milk's effect on health - The New Normal in Action - February 2020 (NNP #71)

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Dr Andrew Davies summarises a recently published scientific paper from a high impact factor journal entitled "Milk and Health" to help you understand what the science says about the effect of cow's milk consumption & other dairy products on your health.

Helping your brain to think and work smarter with Phil Dobson (NNP #70)

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Phil Dobson, who runs “BrainWorkshops”, talks about maintaining brain fitness; managing brain stress; optimising brain health with exercise, sleep and learning; dealing with the distractions of modern life; and the value of mental rehearsal.

A focus on some sleep science - The New Normal in Action - January 2020 (NNP #69)

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Host Dr Andrew Davies talks about a recent scientific paper on sleep he enjoyed reading; several others on sleep you might wish to read; some books and podcasts he's recently read and listened to; and some of the recent habit challenges he’s made.

Gut health, the microbiome, and optimal nutrition for gastro-intestinal disorders - a replay episode with Dr Alan Desmond (NNP #68)

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UK gastroenterologist Dr Alan Desmond speaks about gut health, the microbiome, pre- & probiotics, bowel cancer, ulcerative colitis, Crohn’s disease, fibre, processed food, antibiotics, cancer screening and a whole food plant-based diet.

The health benefits and risks of exercise - a replay episode with Dr John Orchard (NNP #67)

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Australian sport and exercise medicine physician, Dr John Orchard, talks about how much daily exercise benefits your health, which diseases can be prevented and even treated with exercise, and how you can exercise to prevent an overuse injury.

A plant-based diet helps the climate & your health - a replay episode with Dr Neal Barnard (NNP #66)

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A pioneer of plant-based nutrition, Dr Neal Barnard, of the PCRM in Washington DC, describes the value of a plant-based diet, for the climate and many medical conditions, and just how easy it actually is to start eating this way.

Andy Ramage on why you should consider an alcohol-free challenge - a New Year’s eve replay episode (NNP #65)

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Andy Ramage, the co-founder of the One Year No Beer movement, tells us his story of trying an alcohol-free challenge, how significant the social pressure was, and just how good he felt as he understood his relationship with alcohol more clearly.

Self-discovery and health transformation through exercise, diet and yoga - Jeff Lester (NNP #64)

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Jeff Lester talks of self-discovery as he transformed from an obese and troubled young adult to a wise, kind and purpose-focused man teaching yoga and meditation retreats, through a healthy and spiritual approach to exercise, plant-based diet and yoga.

Some experience & information to help you - The New Normal in Action - December 2019 (NNP #63)

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Host Dr Andrew Davies talks about 3 recent scientific papers; what videos, podcasts & books he's recently watched, read and listened to; what's happening for him in the health pillar of sleep; and some new challenges he’s made over the last few episodes.

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This episode’s guests are Natalie and Stuart McIntosh.

Stuart and Natalie (also known as Jai Ma), created the documentary “Serving Love”, an excellent movie sharing the stories of people who have experienced the profound health benefits of following a high raw plant based lifestyle, including overcoming cancer, illness and depression, whilst also developing new loving and healthy relationships with people, nature and life itself. The movie also features interviews with Dr Michael Klaper, Dr Malcolm Mackay, philanthropist Philip Wollen, ultramarathoners Janette Murray-Wakelin and Alan Murray, and Yoko from Shoko Iku, as well as Natalie and Stuart.

After watching the documentary, I simply had to interview them for the podcast. I was warmly welcomed to their beautiful farm in Beaconsfield, Victoria, where apart from our conversation I was able to see the diverse array of organic fruit and vegetables they grow there.

Given the movie is mostly about raw wholefood plant-based eating, you will likely expect that to be the predominant topic. Yet early in this podcast Natalie courageously tells us the story of her depression and how she suffered with it, her attempted suicide, her feeling that this was actually a call to God for help and her subsequent journey from depression to wellness.

Natalie and Stuart then go on to speak about:

The empowering shift Natalie noticed after seeking help and spiritual guidance
How her depression recurred despite this
What Stuart noticed about how the antidepressants were affecting Natalie
The efforts they took to help Natalie discontinue her antidepressants once her mental health came under control
Natalie’s subsequent call to nature and to eating fresh real food
How this progressed to both Stuart and Natalie deciding not to eat animal foods
Some of the people who have guided them both spiritually
Their realization many of us live unconsciously through our psychological minds
The difficulties with believing we are in control of what is happening
The benefits of letting go and simply being aware to become more fulfilled
The benefits of seeing life as a Guru itself
How the right spiritual teacher is someone you resonate with
How they came to make their documentary Serving Love
Some advice about eating more raw food as part of a wholefood plant-based diet

Listening to the podcast may be confronting for you. If you feel you need help, please contact your national 24-hour crisis counseling service. Australian listeners can go to www.lifeline.org.au or www.beyondblue.org.au.

After the interview, I tell you how I have been going with some of the recent challenges I've mentioned on the show, and I also discuss a couple of scientific papers you might value hearing about or even reading yourself, particularly if you have or know someone with depression.

Please enjoy listening to Natalie and Stuart; two of the most kind, caring and loving beings I’ve ever met.

Live well, feel well, do well.

Andrew Davies

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About the New Normal Project podcast: The podcast is aimed to inspire and empower you to live your most plant-based, body-moving and mind-focused lifestyle, by hearing about healthy lifestyle pillars such as nutrition, exercise, mindfulness, sleep, connection and purpose. I hope you’ll glean insights to help you make choices about your habits so you become more healthy, fulfilled and conscious.

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Links to people, organisations & other resources mentioned:

Raw Food For Life website

“Serving Love” documentary

“Serving Love” documentary trailer

Raw Food For Life on Facebook

Raw Food For Life on Instagram

Dr Michael Klaper

Dr Malcolm Mackay

Philip Wollen

Janette Murray-Wakelin and Alan Murray

Blog post about Natalie’s journey from depression to wellness