Are Adenomyosis and Endometriosis the Same Disease?
Release Date: 09/15/2025
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Join surgeon Nicholas Fogelson and endometriosis researcher Libby Hopton as they answer listener questions and discuss recently published research. This episode was recorded in July 2017. Stay tuned for future episodes!
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Dr. Nicholas Fogelson, MD, and Libby Hopton discuss new literature on endometriosis. Studies include a comparison of excision and ablation surgeries for superficial endometriosis, and a review of studies on treating the disease with hormonal contraception. Also, a look at how endometriosis may be connected to the state of a patient's microbiome, and more.
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Dr. Nicholas Fogelson, MD, and Libby Hopton discuss new literature on endometriosis and answer questions from the endometriosis patient community. Topics include removing abdominal wall endo after c-section, Visanne studies, whether to chose a surgery center or a hospital and more.
info_outlineIn this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Nicholas Fogelson and Dr. Shanti Mohling delve into new research that challenges how we understand adenomyosis in relation to endometriosis. They break down the proposed subtypes of adenomyosis— from interna and externa to intramural and adenomyomas— and discuss how these patterns may arise from childbirth, uterine surgery, or molecular changes shared with endometriosis. Along the way, they revisit century-old theories, weigh the evidence for different pathways of disease development, and explore what this means for treatment decisions, fertility preservation, and patient pain.
Highlights:
- Defining adenomyosis and how it differs from—and overlaps with—endometriosis
- Subtypes of adenomyosis: interna, externa, intramural, and adenomyomas
- Theories of origin: tissue injury and repair, retrograde menstruation, embryonic remnants, and genetic mutations
- Why hysterectomy can sometimes relieve pain when conservative surgery cannot
- Understanding why patients with minimal disease may have severe pain while others with advanced disease experience little or none
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