Episode 432: Long-Term Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Considerations for Oncology Nurses
Release Date: 09/11/2026
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“It’s a chronic disease. It never goes away for some people, and so therefore it has these periods of remission where it’s really quiet and well controlled. Then there can be periods of flares where you’re actively engaged in treatment or it’s impacting other pieces. There’s this feeling patients have of, ‘When am I going to have that flare?’ You know, this anticipatory anxiety of, ‘When are things going to be done differently?’ or ‘When do I need to change?’” ONS member Caitlin Murphy, DNP, APRN, FNP-BC, AOCNP®, chief nurse practitioner at Dana-Farber Cancer...
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“Think about all the important things our kidneys do for the body. Those things are compromised. If we have excess buildup of toxins and waste in the body, you’re having problems with fluid reabsorption. Then you have also problems with electrolytes not being balanced. Then in turn, you have ongoing shutdown of systems. So the cardiopulmonary system gets compromise. Your circulatory system then gets compromised. And then all the things in the body that depend upon ongoing circulatory flow are then causing major resets in the system that need to be addressed,” ONS member Brenda S....
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“If you are considering board service, I would say take the leap. Start with your local chapter. It will give you some valuable skills that will help prepare you when you are applying for your national level. And I always say, if you want to do it, just do it because what’s the worst that can happen? They can say no, but that doesn’t mean that you will never serve on a board. I always tell people delayed is not denied,” Cassandra Green, DNP, RN, OCN®, ONS member and past president of the Oncology Nursing Certification Corporation (ONCC) Board of Directors, told Evelyn Wempe, DNP,...
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“They’re really worried that radiation is going to be painful. So they come in for that first day of treatment very anxious. With our patients with brain cancer, we’re using the masks on the table, and those masks are very tight and hold their heads very, very still. So they’ll be very worried about being claustrophobic. We may start out the first day or two with a little bit of [lorazepam]. And they’ll come to me and they’ll say, ‘This really hasn’t been as bad as I thought it was going to be,’” ONS member Catherine McCluskey, BSN, RN, OCN®, ROCN™, radiation oncology...
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“Measurable residual disease is where I think the terminology fits best in that, it is intended to measure the amount of cancer cells that are present in the blood or bone marrow at the time the sample was collected. We can identify one cancer cell in a million. Where that can be really valuable is when we start to think about the duration of treatments and the response to some of our treatments,” ONS member Caitlin Murphy, DNP, APRN, FNP-BC, AOCNP®, chief nurse practitioner at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, MA, told Lenise Taylor, MN, RN, AOCNS®, TCTCN™, oncology clinical...
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“A good way of thinking about this is this is the survival of the fittest clone. There could be a portion of a cancer that naturally has some resistance or ability to survive a particular drug. And over time, as the other cells around it are dying off, that particular clone is able to replicate and continue to survive in the face of that drug therapy and eventually take over as being the fittest clone. At that point, we’re often seeing disease progression,” Danielle Roman, PharmD, BCOP, manager of clinical pharmacy services at the Allegheny Health Network Cancer Institute in Pittsburgh,...
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“When people with PTSD [post-traumatic stress disorder] get quite avoidant—and that can be expressed in so many different ways—the implications can be really profound. I think an important invitation to oncologists and oncology nurses and primary care providers who care for people battling cancer is let’s explore what's underneath these avoidant behaviors. Is it a very practical thing? Or is it that underneath this avoidant behavior is really profound fear?” James C. Jackson, PsyD, research professor at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, TN, told Lenise Taylor, MN,...
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“In oncology specifically, where care is complex, artificial intelligence (AI) can really synthesize large volumes of clinical information, flag risks such as treatment complications, and support adherence to evidence-based pathways. For nurses specifically, this enables them more time for direct patient care, clinical judgment, and care coordination, and really practice to the top of their license while reducing repetitive time and administrative tasks,” Jenn Frith, DNP, RN, OCN®, NE-BC, associate vice president of clinical operations at Duke Cancer Institute in Durham, NC, told Jaime...
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“Think about what organs lie in the radiation field, and anything that lies in that radiation field is likely going to have some potential temporary—hopefully temporary—side effects. If you think about the pelvis, the things that live in there are the bladder, urethra, some bowel, rectum, reproductive organs, skin, some lymph nodes. And so, all of those things could potentially have associated side effects,” ONS member Kayla Kafka-Peterson, BSN, RN, ROCN™, nurse navigator and leader in the brachytherapy and peri-anesthesia programs at UCLA Health, in Los Angeles, CA, told Lenise...
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“When we think of drug interactions, specifically, the National Cancer Institute actually defines this as a change in the way a drug acts in the body when taken with certain other drugs, herbals, or foods or when taken with certain medical conditions. Drug interactions may cause the drug to either be more or less effective or cause effects on the body that are not expected,” Carissa Ganihong, PharmD, BCOP, oncology and bone marrow transplantation clinical pharmacist at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey, told Jaime Weimer, MSN, RN, AGCNS-BS, AOCNS®, manager of oncology...
info_outline“It’s a chronic disease. It never goes away for some people, and so therefore it has these periods of remission where it’s really quiet and well controlled. Then there can be periods of flares where you’re actively engaged in treatment or it’s impacting other pieces. There’s this feeling patients have of, ‘When am I going to have that flare?’ You know, this anticipatory anxiety of, ‘When are things going to be done differently?’ or ‘When do I need to change?’” ONS member Caitlin Murphy, DNP, APRN, FNP-BC, AOCNP®, chief nurse practitioner at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, MA, told Lenise Taylor, MN, RN, AOCNS®, TCTCN™, oncology clinical specialist at ONS, during a conversation about long-term chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) considerations for oncology nurses.
Music Credit: “Fireflies and Stardust” by Kevin MacLeod
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Episode Notes
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- ONS Podcast™ episodes:
- Episode 428: Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Treatment Considerations for Oncology Nurses
- Episode 422: An Overview of Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia for Oncology Nurses
- Episode 256: Cancer Symptom Management Basics: Hematologic Complications
- Episode 201: Which Survivorship Care Model Is Right for Your Patient?
- ONS Voice articles:
- Clinical Journal of Oncology Nursing articles:
- ONS book: Site-Specific Cancer Series: Leukemia (first edition)
- ONS Learning Libraries:
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- CLL Society: Living With CLL
- Lymphoma Research Foundation: Remission and Long-Term Survivorship
- National Comprehensive Cancer Network
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Highlights From This Episode
“I think about the immunocompromised state that often comes from the CD20 monoclonal antibodies such as obinutuzumab, rituximab, and ofatumumab. All of those are agents that have been used in CLL, and they can lead to hypogammaglobulinemia. That is something that can be short-lived right after therapy, but can be prolonged or even a lifelong status after receiving these types of therapies. And then some of the other pieces that we think about are increased risk of basal cell carcinoma, routine skin exams, and maintaining some of those components of evaluation, monitoring, and preventative types of health care.” TS 1:57
“We think about how we comanage some of these comorbidities, especially cardiovascular. … The evolution of cardio-oncology programs has been incredibly valuable, specifically for a lot of agents that have such a significant impact on the risk of developing hypertension but also on the potential for atrial fibrillation. When we think about our aging population and common cardiovascular risks, cardio-oncology has been an incredible partner to be able to collaborate and effectively manage their cardiovascular health in a way that keeps that risk reduction strategy in place, but also allows us to maintain these really effective oncologic agents.” TS 4:50
“When we think about indefinite therapy, the consideration is that patients are on a therapeutic agent for as long as that agent is working, so there’s no set time that is indicated. We oftentimes talk about cycle length or a year of therapy or things like that. But when we think about indefinite treatment, it’s really a shift in the perspective of looking at CLL like a chronic disease that is continually being managed. I think this is when we partner and think about other comorbidities that we manage, such as hypertension. You have to take something every day to effectively manage this disease. And so this is what we think about with indefinite treatment—that the patient is going to be receiving treatment or engaged in taking these agents for as long as they’re working and it’s giving the patient the intended benefit.” TS 12:30
“CLL might not be something that requires an action plan. There’s a lot of active surveillance and routine monitoring, and there’s not really something the patient can do to say, ‘I’m kind of in the driver’s seat.’ I think this is one of those components that really ties together what we can advocate for our patients to be doing to reduce the risk of complications. I often talk about immunizations and vaccines and really staying up to date because that’s going to be the most effective way for them to reduce the risk of infections.” TS 15:01
“Everyone’s going to need different support, but there’s so much opportunity to really provide a meaningful quality of life. Whether patients are on active surveillance or have never needed therapy, if they need periods of treatment or are off therapy, or if they’re continuously on therapy, I think that there are a lot of things that we can do to advocate for them to have a really good quality of life and be able to live fully with this diagnosis.” TS 27:44