PPP 463 | Transcending AI Fear and Hype: How to Think About the Human-AI Relationship, with author Faisal Hoque
People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast
Release Date: 06/12/2025
People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast
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In this episode, Andy talks with Faisal Hoque, author of Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI. Faisal brings a unique blend of deep philosophical insight, entrepreneurial experience, and technological expertise to the conversation. They explore how leaders can navigate the fast-evolving landscape of artificial intelligence while staying grounded in what makes us human.
The discussion explores how to think about AI not just as a tool or collaborator, but as a mirror that reflects our biases and decisions. Faisal introduces the OPEN and CARE frameworks as practical ways to innovate while managing risk, making this conversation highly actionable for project managers and leaders. From detaching from digital noise to preparing the next generation for an AI-shaped world, Faisal offers a thoughtful roadmap for embracing technology without losing our agency.
If you're looking for insights on how to thrive in the age of AI with both optimism and responsibility, this episode is for you!
Sound Bites
- “You can be optimistic, but you can also mitigate risk at the same time. One doesn't really work without the other.”
- “Catastrophizing is not doomism, but it's really a risk management practice.”
- "AI is not just a tool or collaborator, it's a mirror."
- “Don't outsource your agency. It's easy to let AI nudge your decisions without even realizing it.”
- “Just like you don't put a 10-year-old in a car to drive... technology can do a lot of good, but it can also be disastrous.”
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:33 Start of Interview
- 02:00 What From Your Background Shaped Your Thinking?
- 03:54 How Philosophy and Systems Thinking Intersect
- 06:00 Introducing the OPEN and CARE Frameworks
- 06:55 What Is the Human Role in an AI World?
- 09:43 How AI Can Subtly Influence Our Choices
- 11:40 Sci-Fi's Influence on AI Perception
- 15:07 What Is an AI Persona and How Do You Use Them?
- 18:13 Why AI Is Also a Mirror of Us
- 22:33 Introducing the OPEN Framework for Individuals
- 25:33 How Emotional Intelligence Applies to AI Partnership
- 27:02 The Role of Catastrophizing in Risk Management
- 28:58 The Value of Detaching and Devoting
- 32:03 How We Can Prepare Our Kids for an AI World
- 35:31 End of Interview
- 36:00 Andy Comments After the Interview
- 40:33 Outtakes
Learn More
You can learn more about Faisal and his work at FaisalHoque.com.
For more learning on this topic, check out:
- Episode 460 with Dr. Joe Sutherland about AI, Data, and Decision Making
- Episode 454 with Dr. Christie Smith about how AI is changing leadership
- Episode 437 with Nada Sanders on her book Humachine (Human + Machine)
Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!
Talent Triangle: Business Acumen
Topics: AI, Leadership, Risk Management, Innovation, Digital Transformation, Emotional Intelligence, Strategic Thinking, Project Management, Decision Making, Organizational Change, Technology Ethics, Future of Work
The following music was used for this episode:
Music: Echo by Alexander Nakarada
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Music: Chillhouse by Frank Schroeter
License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license