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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Release Date: 06/23/2025

PPP 494 | How to Stay Poised When Everything Starts to Slip, with author Andrew Wittman show art PPP 494 | How to Stay Poised When Everything Starts to Slip, with author Andrew Wittman

People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Dr. Andrew Wittman, former Marine, police officer, federal agent, and leadership coach, about his new book . If you lead projects and teams, you already know pressure is coming. The real question is what you do when it arrives. Andrew explains why the brain can work against you under stress, and how the questions you ask yourself shape the options you can see. You’ll learn the Two Minute Rule and how it can help you shift from “we can’t” thinking into problem-solving mode. Andy and Andrew also explore how filters and assumptions influence what...

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Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Olivia Montgomery, Associate Principal Analyst at Capterra and a PMP. They discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping project management tools, skills, and expectations. Olivia brings a rare perspective, combining hands-on experience leading a PMO with years of research into how organizations evaluate, adopt, and struggle with project management software. Olivia and Andy explore why buying AI-powered tools is often easy, but realizing real value from them is much harder. Olivia explains the shift from buying software based on seat count to buying...

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Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Peter Cappelli and Ranya Nehmeh, co-authors of . In a world still grappling with virtual work, Peter and Ranya challenge us to take a fresh look at the workplace. Not just where we do work, but how that space shapes learning, culture, visibility, and performance. In this conversation, you’ll hear what gets lost when teams are always virtual, why hybrid work often underdelivers, and how proximity plays a surprising role in mentoring, innovation, and even career progression. Peter and Ranya explore how organizational culture shifts when people are...

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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Lynn Smith, former NBC News, MSNBC, and CNN Headline News anchor, executive communication coach, and author of . Lynn is best known for helping Fortune 500 leaders turn pressure into presence, but her newest book takes an unexpected form: a children’s story about fear, resilience, and perseverance. That surprising choice is exactly what makes this conversation so relevant for leaders. Andy and Lynn explore why the same fears that stop CEOs are often the ones that show up in kids, how our inner critic or “Brain Bully” shapes behavior under...

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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Barry Wolfe, author of . Barry is a seasoned HR executive and business leader who has built a reputation as one of the rare “HR guys who actually has a head for business.” In this frank and eye-opening conversation, Barry challenges many of the tools and ideas we’ve come to rely on in leadership and management. Andy and Barry discuss why frameworks like Maslow’s hierarchy may be doing more harm than good, how personality assessments can become limiting narratives, and why our obsession with “fit” often backfires. But this isn’t just a...

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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Martin Dubin, psychologist, former CEO, executive coach, and author of . Marty brings a rare combination of clinical insight and real-world leadership experience to a topic that affects every project manager and frontline leader: the blindspots that quietly shape our behavior, decisions, and impact. Together, the discussion explores how motives often drive our actions without us realizing it, why strengths can become liabilities when overused, and how emotion acts as one of the most powerful and least discussed forces in leadership. Marty explains his...

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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Joel Hilchey, speaker, facilitator, and author of . Joel brings humor, honesty, and a refreshing amount of grace to a topic many leaders quietly struggle with: becoming a boss without training, preparation, or a clear roadmap. Andy and Joel explore what it really means to be an “accidental boss” and why most bad bosses are not bad people. They unpack the four quadrants every leader must balance: tasks vs. people and short-term vs. long-term, and why focusing only on tasks can quietly erode trust and engagement. You’ll hear practical ideas for...

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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with comedian and corporate emcee Adam Christing, author of . If you have ever hesitated to use humor at work because you were unsure it would land, or worried it might backfire, this conversation offers both encouragement and a practical path forward. Adam shares how his early influences shaped his approach to humor and why he believes every human is also a “humor being.” You will hear why humor is more than chasing chuckles, including how it can build trust, improve learning, and strengthen relationships on teams. Adam introduces the concept of "laugh...

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PPP 486 | How to Solve Some of the Toughest Leadership Problems, with business coach Dr. Katie Best show art PPP 486 | How to Solve Some of the Toughest Leadership Problems, with business coach Dr. Katie Best

People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Dr. Katie Best, leadership coach and author of . Drawing on years of coaching leaders across industries, Katie shares practical insights that help you tackle high-stakes leadership moments—especially when a coach isn't available. They explore Katie’s SOLVE framework for problem-solving under pressure, the danger of performative busyness, and how to make better decisions when trade-offs and uncertainty rule the day. You’ll also hear how to unlock authentic influence without manipulation, foster healthy debate on overly “nice” teams, and support...

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Summary In this episode, Andy talks with John Krewson, co-author of . John’s journey spans software development, acting, and even a stint with Saturday Night Live. He now leads Sketch Development, where he helps teams build products people actually want, faster and with more joy. In this conversation, John explains why project teams should behave more like creative troupes than traditional org charts. You’ll hear how laughter can be a feedback loop, why messy first drafts matter, and how simple tools like sticky notes, Elmo cards, and Lean Coffee can radically improve your team’s...

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Summary

In this episode, Andy welcomes back networking expert and keynote speaker Kari Mirabal, author of You Already Have the No. Kari shares practical strategies for building authentic relationships that can help you not only survive but thrive during career transitions.

They explore the challenges of networking when you're early in your career, in between jobs, or worried about losing the one you have. Kari unpacks how to make the most of platforms like LinkedIn, how to overcome fear and rejection, and the value of making the ask—even if you think the answer will be “no.” She also shares a powerful reframe tool (LTR: Lie, Truth, Reframe) to help you move past limiting beliefs.

Whether you're navigating a job change, building your personal brand, or trying to future-proof your career, Kari’s approachable, energizing advice is just what you need. If you’re looking for insights on how to build relationships that open doors, this episode is for you!

Sound Bites

  • “You already have the no before you ask. So what do you have to lose? Nothing.”
  • "Sales is not synonymous with networking, but service is."
  • "Sometimes it wasn’t the person who was most qualified that got the job. It was the person who marketed themself the best."
  • "Be a stalker, liker, commenter, poster."
  • “Don’t wait until you need a network to start building one. Build the well before you’re thirsty.”
  • “Asking is not a sign of weakness. It’s a sign of strength.”
  • “Confidence is a skill. The more you practice, the stronger it gets.”
  • “LinkedIn changed my life, and it can change yours too.”

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 02:04 Start of Interview
  • 02:14 Were You Always a Natural Networker?
  • 04:34 Is LinkedIn Still Worth It? Tips for Beginners
  • 08:08 How to Make the Ask, Even if You're New
  • 13:02 How Kari’s Son Landed an Internship Through Networking
  • 17:21 Advice for Making a Career or Industry Transition
  • 25:00 What to Do If You’re Worried About Job Security
  • 27:20 Why We Let Fear Hold Us Back and How to Reframe It
  • 32:40 The Role of AI in Relationship Building and Job Seeking
  • 34:40 What Parents Can Do to Help Their Kids Network Confidently
  • 38:16 End of Interview
  • 38:39 Andy Comments After the Interview
  • 42:51 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Kari and her work at KariMirabal.com.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

  • Episode 285 for my earlier conversation with Kari.
  • Episode 318 with John Stepper. It’s a great follow up to today’s discussion on how to build new connections and a better career.
  • Episode 356 with Eric Barker. Eric and I talked about why everything we know about relationships is mostly wrong.

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Talent Triangle: Power Skills

Topics: Networking, Career Development, Job Search, LinkedIn Strategy, Relationship Building, Influence, Confidence, Career Transition, Professional Growth, Emotional Intelligence, Personal Branding, Fear of Rejection, Leadership

The following music was used for this episode:

Music: Echo by Alexander Nakarada
License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Music: Chillhouse by Frank Schroeter
License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license