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Walter Green is a remarkable philanthropist, mentor, author of This Is the Moment!, and founder of the impactful “Say It Now” movement. In this episode, Walter delves into the unique insights gained from his challenging upbringing, discusses embracing mortality, and highlights the mindset of “finishing strong.” He shares insights on intentionality, thinking in reverse, saying “no,” prioritizing relationships, and the essence of focusing on others. The conversation focuses on the “Say It Now” movement, which stresses the importance of expressing sentiments to loved ones well before the end of life.

We discuss:

  • How Peter and Walter met through Ric Elias [2:45];
  • The unique perspectives and life lessons provided by Walter’s challenging childhood [5:30];
  • Walter’s harrowing experience with a sudden mental breakdown and his subsequent recovery with the help of therapy [11:15];
  • A diverse professional journey ending in great success [18:15];
  • The birth of a movement: celebrating friendships through public tributes and expressing gratitude to those who have shaped your life’s journey [22:30];
  • Intentionality, thinking in reverse, saying “no”, and other guiding principles for Walter [30:00];
  • Walter’s global journey of gratitude on his 70th birthday: visiting friends and creating memorable experiences [39:15];
  • The profound impact of acknowledging and expressing gratitude for the people who contribute to our lives [46:15];
  • The key elements for creating meaningful connections and cultivating deep, authentic friendships [52:15];
  • The “Say It Now” movement: the inspiration behind the remarkably impactful initiative [58:30];
  • What “finishing strong” means to Walter [1:07:30];
  • Finding peace at the end of life through expressing gratitude and finding purpose in serving others [1:16:00];
  • Resources to learn about “Say It Now” [1:26:15]; and
  • More.

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