Where Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman Fit and Where They Don't
Release Date: 08/27/2025
Two Experts Debate When You Should Take Social Security—But here’s the TRUTH!
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Today’s episode revolves around one of the biggest financial debates among pre-retirees and retirees: When should you take Social Security? Host David McKnight touches upon the recent debate of two of the smartest voices in the field – Dr. Laurence “Larry” Kotlikoff and Dr. Derek Tharp – on this exact question. Dr. Tharp, out of the University of Southern Maine, notes that economists commonly recommend delaying social security benefits until age 70. Boston University’s Dr. Kotlikoff agrees and explains that delaying can give you a 76% higher monthly benefit compared to taking...
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What REALLY Happened with Kyle Busch's $8 Million Lawsuit against Pacific Life
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David McKnight looks at what happened when NASCAR legend Kyle Busch reportedly lost $8+ million in what was supposed to be a tax-free retirement plan. The plan Busch relied on was built around an indexed universal life insurance policy. According to Kyle and Samantha Busch’s lawsuit, they paid more than $10.4M into several IUL policies issued by Pacific Life Insurance between 2018 and 2022. While these policies were pitched as a safe, self-funding, tax-free retirement plan, things didn’t go as promised… Poor design, unrealistic expectations, a delayed 1035 exchange, and poor...
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The Financial Guru Hall of Shame--Who's Leading You Off a Cliff?
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David McKnight focuses on three of the biggest names in personal finance – Dave Ramsey, Suze Orman, and Ken Fisher – and why you should be careful with following their advice. David emphasizes that anyone trying to wring the most efficiency out of their retirement savings should focus on advice that’s backed by math… not soundbites. While David Ramsey is the right person for people who are making less than they are spending, the same can’t be said for his retirement planning advice. For instance, he claims that 100% of cash value life insurance sucks 100% of the time. For...
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Suze Orman Says 3%, Bill Bengen Says 4.7%--Who’s Right on Sustainable Withdrawal Rates?
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David McKnight compares the approach of some of the biggest names in personal finance: Suze Orman, and William “Bill” Bengen (the man who invented the 4% Rule). In a recent interview covered by MSN, Suze Orman declared flat out that the 4% Rule is dead since markets are volatile, interest rates fluctuate, and people are living longer. David shares the “origin story” of how the 4% Rule came to be – and its creator Bill Bengen. Interviewed by MSN, Bengen updated his research and concluded that, based on current data, a 4.7% withdrawal rate is now sustainable. David compares Orman’s...
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Why Dave Ramsey’s Roth Conversion Advice Could Cost You a Fortune
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David McKnight discusses one of the most destructive pieces of retirement advice he has ever heard: that you should never do a Roth conversion in retirement or within five years of retiring. Dave Ramsey believes you should forego doing a Roth conversion if you’re within five years of retirement or are already retired – because of the so-called Five-Year Rule. The problem with this approach, according to David, is that Ramsey is misinterpreting what that rule actually means, in addition to confusing multiple rules and applying them to the wrong people. Ramsey’s advice, continues David,...
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Four Ways to Pay Tax on Your Roth Conversion
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David McKnight addresses something that can make or break your Roth conversion strategy: how you actually pay the tax. David kicks things off by sharing that Federal and state estimated tax payments are usually made in four equal installments: April 15th, June 15th, September 15th, and January 15th of the following year. Did you know that doing a Roth conversion in December, like many people do, will lead to the IRS pretending that income was earned evenly throughout the year? If you don’t account for that, you could get hit with an underpayment penalty (8% of the underpaid amount)....
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I’m 52 Years Old and Have No Bonds in My Portfolio (Smart or Dangerous?)
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David McKnight explains why he has chosen to avoid bonds entirely and why you might want to rethink how you protect your portfolio as you approach retirement. David kicks things off by illustrating the so-called sequence of returns risk. According to conventional wisdom, bonds tend to be less volatile, so they help smooth out the rough years in the stock market. However, bonds aren’t the safety net they used to be. And over long periods of time, bonds tend to underperform stocks by a wide margin. David warns against “stuffing your portfolio with bonds just to be safe.” The...
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Dave Ramsey is Right About Bonds, but Not for the Reasons He Thinks
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David McKnight addresses something Dave Ramsey has been saying for years: “You should NEVER own bonds in retirement!” David points out that the tool that actually solves the problem Ramsey has been trying to avoid is the same one he spent years mocking on his call-in show: the Fixed-Indexed Annuity. Ramsey’s argument is that stocks outperform bonds over time – hence, bonds should be avoided as they’re “slow, underperforming, and risky.” David indicates what Ramsey is half right about, as well as something he’s missing the mark on… David discusses how bonds can act as a sort...
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What is the Power of Zero Retirement Philosophy?
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David McKnight walks you through what he believes to be the retirement strategy of the future: the Power of Zero approach. Congress recently passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which makes the Trump tax cuts permanent. The brackets were set to expire in 2026, but now we’re told they’re here to stay… By 2035, the U.S. will need massive infusions of cash just to cover the interest on the debt of $37 trillion, not to mention Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and defense. When the Government needs money and no one else will loan it the money, it does the one thing it’s always done in...
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Greatest Retirement Mistake
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While on the golf course with his son, David McKnight got asked a question, by a couple of men in their early 70s, every pre-retiree and retiree wonders at some point: “What’s the biggest mistake people make when preparing for retirement?” Many people spend their entire career saving money in tax-deferred accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs. As that balance grows larger every year, it’s easy to get the illusion that all that money belongs to you, while a larger portion actually belongs to the IRS. How much of that sum you ultimately get to keep depends on what tax rates happen to be...
info_outlineDavid sits down with John Manganaro to unpack the advice of financial gurus like Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman. While their guidance has helped countless Americans get out of debt, David explains why their cookie-cutter approach to retirement income planning can fall short.
Why “hope over math” is a dangerous foundation for retirement planning—David explains why advice built on optimistic return assumptions leaves disciplined savers exposed to massive disappointment later.
Learn how Dave Ramsey’s 8% withdrawal and 12% return claims mislead investors and why following them could drain your retirement accounts too quickly.
David explains why saving $1,000 a month isn’t realistic for most families and how financial gurus use overly rosy scenarios to make the math appear more approachable.
David shares how gurus water down complex retirement math into sound bites that might inspire beginners, but fail those with real assets at stake.
Why one-size-fits-all advice collapses under scrutiny. For example, what works for paying down credit card debt doesn’t translate to sustainable retirement income.
David highlights the power of guaranteed lifetime income annuities and why they’re often a more efficient way to purge longevity risk than relying only on the stock market.
Learn how combining annuities with traditional investments can actually increase income while improving the odds that your portfolio lasts through life expectancy.
David shares how cash value life insurance can be used as a volatility shield—giving your stock portfolio time to recover after downturns instead of locking in losses.
Why guaranteed income changes retiree behavior. Research shows people with guaranteed income tend to spend more, worry less, and even live longer.
Why longevity risk is often underestimated by retirees—David reveals the benefits of planning for a 30–35 year retirement.
David explains how tax-free planning integrates with Social Security and why keeping provisional income below thresholds can keep benefits 100% tax-free.
Why the investing “holy grail” is leaving just enough in an IRA so RMDs are offset by the standard deduction—allowing tax-deferred money to come out tax-free.
How to build six different streams of tax-free income so none show up on the IRS radar, putting you effectively in the 0% tax bracket.
David highlights the fiscal reality ahead—with debt-to-GDP ratios soaring, he warns that tax rates are likely to be dramatically higher within the next decade.
Mentioned in this episode:
David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track
PowerOfZero.com (free video series)
@mcknightandco on Twitter
@davidcmcknight on Instagram
David McKnight on YouTube
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