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Kelley Stevens | Creating Sustainable Income in Private Practice | TPOT 370

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Release Date: 02/24/2025

How to Make Therapy More Culturally Responsive | Dr. Phebe Brako | TPOT 434

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Phebe Brako for a really thoughtful conversation about what it means to make therapy more culturally responsive. So many of the clinical theories we learn were developed through a Western lens, and while those theories can be helpful, they don’t always fit every client, every family system, or every cultural background. Dr. Phebe talks about why therapists need to examine their own worldview, stay curious about their clients’ lived experiences, and be willing to adapt the models they use in the therapy room. We talk about culture, family systems, CBT,...

Why Private Practice Looks So Different Now | Lex E Santí | TPOT 433

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Private practice has changed a LOT over the last few years… and therapists are still trying to figure out what comes next. In this episode, Gordon talks with Lex E. Santi about the evolution of therapy after telehealth, online platforms, insurance shifts, and changing client expectations. They dive into why more clinicians are entering private practice, why clients still crave in-person connection, and how companies like BetterHelp, Alma, and Headway are reshaping the profession. They also explore the pressure therapists feel to market themselves, build niches, and create an online presence...

What to Say to Someone Grieving (Most People Get This Wrong) | Shelby Forsythia | TPOT 432

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Grief is something every one of us will face at some point, and yet most of us have no idea what to say when someone is hurting. In this episode, I’m joined by Shelby Forsythia, a grief coach, author, and host of the Grief Grower podcast. Shelby shares her own story of profound loss and how it shaped the work she does today, helping people navigate grief in a way that actually honors what they are going through. We talk about why so many common phrases miss the mark, what grieving people are really experiencing beneath the surface, and how grief doesn’t just affect your emotions, it...

What It Really Takes to Run a Profitable Private Practice | Brandy Mabra | TPOT 431

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Thinking about starting a private practice in 2026? There’s a lot to consider… and it’s not as simple as it used to be. In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, I’m joined by Brandy Mabra, who brings nearly two decades of experience across private practice, corporate healthcare, and entrepreneurship. We dig into what’s really happening in the industry right now—from AI and changing business models to profitability and long-term sustainability. If you’re wondering whether now is the right time to start (or grow) a practice, this conversation will help you think more...

Why A Lot of Therapists Struggle in Private Practice | Katie Piura | TPOT 430

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Thinking about starting a private practice… but feeling unsure where to begin? In this episode, Katie Piura shares the mindset shifts every therapist needs to make before launching (or growing) a successful practice. From burnout in agency work to building something aligned and sustainable, Katie breaks down the real challenges therapists face and why being a great clinician isn’t always enough. We also get into the business side of private practice that grad school never taught you, including money mindset, marketing, and why asking for help might be the most important step you take. If...

How This Simple Method Transforms Private Practice Sessions | Tanya Dantus | TPOT 429

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

What if the thing keeping your clients stuck isn’t what they’re talking about… but what they’re avoiding feeling? In this episode, I’m joined by Tanya Dantus, and we dive into a really practical way of helping clients move through what’s actually underneath the surface. Tanya shares her RIFRA Method, which stands for Root, Impact, Feel, Reflect, and Act, and how this process helps clients stop intellectualizing and start creating real change. We talk about why so many people struggle to access their emotions, how that shows up in therapy, and what it looks like to guide someone...

Are Superbills Worth It in Private Practice? | Mark Florian | TPOT 428

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Thinking about taking insurance in your private practice or trying to figure out a better way to handle out-of-network clients? This is one of those decisions that almost every therapist wrestles with at some point. On one hand, insurance can help fill your caseload and make therapy more accessible. On the other hand, the admin work, lower reimbursement rates, and constant back and forth can leave you feeling stretched thin and frustrated. In this episode, I’m joined by Mark Florian, founder of Deputy Care, and we get into what is really happening behind the scenes with insurance,...

Private Pay vs Insurance: What Therapists Get WRONG | Avivit Fisher | TPOT 427

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Private pay versus insurance is one of the biggest decisions therapists face, and honestly, it’s also one of the most misunderstood. In this episode, we’re breaking down what therapists often get wrong when thinking about these two models. It’s not just about money or convenience. It’s about how you want to run your practice, who you want to serve, and where you’re willing to spend your time and energy. If you’ve been going back and forth on whether to take insurance, go private pay, or try a hybrid approach, this conversation will help you think about it in a much clearer way....

Thoughts on AI and Tech Platforms in Private Practice | TPOT 426

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

What happens when you open the floor and let your audience ask anything? That’s exactly what we did in this episode, and the questions did not disappoint. We’re diving into the big ones therapists are quietly asking right now. Is AI going to replace us? Are companies like BetterHelp helping or hurting the field? And how do you actually stand out when clients can talk to a chatbot instead of a human? I’m sharing my honest thoughts on where all of this is headed, what most therapists are getting wrong about AI, and why the human connection in therapy still matters more than ever. If...

Helping Clients Navigate Digital Overwhelm in Private Practice | Eli Singer | TPOT 425

The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer

Most of us know the feeling. You pick up your phone to check one thing and suddenly twenty minutes have disappeared. For many people, this has become a daily pattern, and it is starting to show up more and more in therapy sessions. In this episode, I sit down with Eli Singer to talk about digital overwhelm and the complicated relationship many of us have with our phones and devices. Eli has spent years working in the digital world, including building one of the early social media agencies in North America. After stepping away from that work, he began focusing on helping people develop...

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Kelley dives deep into the growing trend of therapists exploring multiple income streams. While many dream of creating passive income, Kelley shares a powerful insight: there’s no such thing as truly passive income. She unpacks the reality of building diverse revenue sources, from group practices to online courses, workshops, and retreats. But before diving into digital products, Kelley stresses the importance of first building an engaged audience. She explains how to test ideas, create value with free content, and develop products that truly meet the needs of your community. If you’re a therapist looking to scale and diversify, this episode is packed with actionable tips and strategies you won’t want to miss!

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Meet Kelley Stevens

Kelley Stevens is passionate about empowering therapists with the tools they need to start private practices. Based in Santa Barbara, CA, Kelley is an LMFT with over a decade of experience in both mental health and business development. She began her career as the marketing director for a large outpatient program in Los Angeles, where she played a pivotal role in its growth before launching her own successful six-figure private practice. After five years, she relocated and established two more thriving practices in new cities. Additionally, Kelley serves as an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University and Antioch University. When she's not working, she enjoys spending quality time with her toddler and husband.

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