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Ep 314 From High Revenue to High Profit: The Missing Piece in Your Business with Chris Hallberg, EOS

Profit Answer Man: Scaling with Profit First & Beyond

Release Date: 03/18/2026

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From High Revenue to High Profit: The Missing Piece in Your Business with Chris Hallberg, EOS

 

Find Rocky Lalvani @www.ProfitComesFirst.comor email himatrocky@profitcomesfirst.com 

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Hire a Green Beret: Why Veterans Transform Your Business 

 

In this episode, Rocky Lalvani sits down with Chris Hallberg, ranked #9 on Inc. Magazine's Top 50 Leadership & Management Experts, to discuss why hiring the right people and implementing disciplined systems are the real keys to building a profitable business. Chris shares insights from his military background, his veteran-powered recruiting company Business Sergeant, and his work implementing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) with hundreds of companies. Learn why Green Berets might be your secret weapon, how to stop bleeding money through bad hiring decisions, and why your profit problem might not be a revenue problem at all. 

 

Learning Insights 

  • The true cost of bad hiring: A single bad hire in a $100,000 role costs approximately $500,000 when accounting for turnover and lost productivity. A-players cost only 1.2X to 1.6X more but deliver 2 to 10 times the value. 

  • Veterans are exceptionally rare and valuable: Only half of 1% of the US population has special operations training. They don't cost more to hire than regular candidates but deliver exponentially more value through proven leadership under pressure. 

  • High revenue does not equal high profit: The biggest pattern Chris sees is companies saying yes to every opportunity. Without a strong number two person (COO/integrator) to say no and protect margins, you get high sales but low profit. 

  • Your yes person needs a no person: Visionary CEOs naturally seek opportunities. They need a strong integrator to say no and protect profit margins. Without this balance, money disappears and profit suffers. 

  • Accountability is natural with the right people: When you hire aligned, quality people who share your values, accountability happens without friction. If you can't hold someone accountable, you have the wrong person in that seat. 

  • Use math, not gut feeling, to make decisions: Create a go/no-go matrix based on realistic data. Input assumptions about revenue, time, and resources. Let the numbers tell you yes or no instead of relying on passion or intuition. 

  • Discipline beats opportunity every single time: The road to business failure is paved with companies that couldn't decide what to say no to. Clear, disciplined decisions about strategy and fit matter more than saying yes to everything. 

 

The Big Takeaway 

The difference between businesses that struggle and businesses that thrive isn't complicated. It's not about working harder, better marketing, or a superior product. It's about two things: the right people in the right seats, and the discipline to say no to opportunities that don't fit your strategy and profit model. Most visionary founders and CEOs are wired to say yes. They're opportunity seekers. That's their strength. But without a strong integrator, COO, or number two person who protects profit margins by saying no, companies end up with high revenue and low profit. They're exhausted, understaffed, and serving too many customers at too thin a margin. Additionally, most business owners are flying blind when it comes to hiring and decision making. They rely on gut feeling instead of math. Veterans, particularly those from special operations backgrounds, bring a rare combination of perseverance, problem solving, accountability, and calm under pressure that most candidates can't match. They've been selected and tested in environments where failure isn't an option. They understand what real adversity looks like, which makes business challenges feel manageable by comparison. The math is simple: invest more upfront in the right person, hold them accountable, create systems for evaluation and improvement, and say no to opportunities that don't fit. Do this, and your business transforms. 

 

Conclusion 

Building a profitable, scalable business requires more than good ideas and hard work. It requires the right people in the right seats, clear systems for making decisions, and the discipline to say no. Chris Hallberg's work with hundreds of leadership teams and his experience as a veteran demonstrate that these principles work regardless of industry or company size. Whether you hire a Green Beret through Business Sergeant or simply apply the framework Chris and Rocky outlined, the message is the same: your people and your discipline are what create profit. Everything else is a distraction. 

 

About Chris Hallberg 

Chris Hallberg—known as the “Business Sergeant”—is a top-ranked leadership expert, military veteran, and serial entrepreneur who transforms good companies into great ones, fast. Ranked #9 on Inc. Magazine’s Top 50 Leadership & Management Experts—ahead of Simon Sinek—Chris blends battlefield-tested leadership with the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) to deliver proven results. 

He scaled and sold a startup during the Great Recession at an 8× multiple, built royalty-generating sales systems, and became Colorado’s first EOS Implementer, guiding 100+ teams to achieve 90%+ employee engagement rates and 100+ Best Places to Work awards. Today, he co-builds a $5M AI-driven EOS platform while coaching billion-dollar contractors, national chains, and franchises with a remarkable 85% success rate. 

With his no-nonsense, high-energy style, Chris simplifies strategy, strengthens culture, and shows leaders how to drive 30%+ EBIT on predictable systems—making him a powerhouse guest for any podcast. 

 

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