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EP10: Facebook and Retargeting with Seth Pennington and Glen Hoddinott

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

Release Date: 04/24/2019

EP24:  Sales with Temple Naylor show art EP24: Sales with Temple Naylor

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

On this episode, Tim talks to Temple Naylor about sales.

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EP23: Scaling and Culture with Taylor Welch show art EP23: Scaling and Culture with Taylor Welch

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

On this episode, Tim talks to Taylor Welch from Traffic and Funnels and Wealth Cap Holdings about rapidly scaling a business, building culture and aligning your team.

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ProfitLayer Podcast Season 2 Preview show art ProfitLayer Podcast Season 2 Preview

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

ProfitLayer Podcast with Timothy Dick - Season 2 Preview

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EP22: Maximum Achievability and Maximum Maintainability show art EP22: Maximum Achievability and Maximum Maintainability

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

On this episode, Nic Peterson shares a simple but profound and often overlooked concept that should absolutely be applied to your life and business. "The number one thing that all repeat achievers and high impact business owners understand: Your maximum achievability is not your maximum maintainability. The greats optimize for the latter." - Nic Peterson   Work with ProfitLayer: To learn more about working with ProfitLayer or Timothy Dick as a private client, visit . If you enjoy the ProfitLayer podcast or got value from this episode, please take time to leave a review on iTunes or...

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EP21:  Social Proof and Testimonial Sequencing show art EP21: Social Proof and Testimonial Sequencing

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

Testimonials, reviews and social proof are very important.  On this episode, we talk about the importance of sequence and collecting testimonials for the entire user journey and not just from clients at their finish line.    We learned about this from Justin and Michelle Demers of SocialProofClub and encourage everyone to join Justin live for free training on this in our group each week and to check out the SocialProofClub course. Work with ProfitLayer: To learn more about working with ProfitLayer or Timothy Dick as a private client, visit . If you enjoy the ProfitLayer podcast...

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EP20: The Power and Importance of Messaging show art EP20: The Power and Importance of Messaging

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

Messaging expert Sani Nielsen talks with Tim about the power and importance of messaging. “All marketing is messaging, but not all messaging is marketing.”Sani Nielsen (5:32-5:36) Learn More Learn more about Sani at or find her in our free Facebook group every Monday for ProfitLayer's Messaging Mondays at .  If you would like more information about Timothy Dick or ProfitLayer, visit . --- Messaging Course Sani just released an amazing new digital course called Minimize the Message Gap and is offering all ProfitLayer listeners a $50 discount. For all ProfitLayer listeners, Sani...

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EP19: Two Types of People show art EP19: Two Types of People

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

“A business needs two types of people to achieve a mass scale without everything going all crazy - the starter and the scaler.”Timothy Dick (00:55-1:20) There are two archetypes necessary to scale a business to a high seven or eight figures. While it’s possible to build a business to a certain point with only one type - whether that’s one person or multiple people of one type - to achieve mass scale without the overwhelm and headache, a business needs both types. Type One: The Starter  Most entrepreneurs and visionaries are Starters who have created things that never existed...

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EP18: Your Marketing Budget show art EP18: Your Marketing Budget

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

“You can't scale your winning ad campaign in a linear straight line. You have to be methodical about it.”Timothy Dick (9:51-10:00) Managing your marketing budget is essential to getting the most out of your campaigns and remaining profitable along the way. The algorithms used by Google, Facebook, and other platforms give today’s businesses the power to reach their target audiences and convert them into paying customers.  But these algorithms are complex, and there’s a common mistake that businesses make when their ads are doing well. Thinking you can scale your marketing in a...

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EP17: The Trichotomy of Returns with Nic Peterson show art EP17: The Trichotomy of Returns with Nic Peterson

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

“One of the keys to becoming wildly more productive is understanding the concept of the trichotomy of returns.”Nic Peterson (2:49 - 2:54) Learn to be efficient with your resources as your business grows. When your business starts growing, your decisions become more critical. Ideally, you want to minimize your input for a specific return. To make decisions that enable you to maximize your output, you need to grasp the concept of the Trichotomy of Returns. “When making a decision, you have to decide if the expected return is worth your time, and how it affects your business...

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EP16: Exclusions and Negative Targeting show art EP16: Exclusions and Negative Targeting

ProfitLayer with Timothy Dick - Business building explored layer by layer.

“We talk so much about targeting what you want. But you need to go a little further and add a layer of  what you don’t want or doesn’t make sense.”Timothy Dick (11:51-12:10) Exclusion and negative targeting are strategies that business owners often overlook when trying to grow and scale. But they can influence the results you achieve on any online ad platform you’re using to get the highest return on your ad spending. It takes time to figure out who you want to target with their messages with any advertising network or campaign. Targeting lets you determine who will see your ad...

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“Organic and paid marketing are exactly the same. You pay for organic with time, and paid with money.”

- Glen Hoddinott (39:25-39:30)

When organic marketing isn’t enough, marketers look to paid ads on Google, Facebook, and other platforms. Facebook marketing is still one of the most effective ways for businesses to share their messages with their audiences. Retargeting strategies make it easy for you to reach more of the right customers with the right messages at the right times.

Seth Pennington and Glen Hoddinott are two of the top media buyers at ProfitLayer with years of experience managing large marketing campaigns. Their success comes from understanding the importance of diversity in marketing. In order to succeed, businesses need to expand their marketing and find other profitable channels both online and offline.


“Initial cold marketing convinces the audience that your product works. Retargeting tells them why it will work for them, while building trust to close the deal.” - Seth Pennington (27:18-27:36)

Retargeting lets you appear in front of users who have seen your ads and visited your website and other marketing assets. It’s now extremely affordable to keep your business in front of people when you know how to implement retargeting campaigns.


Retargeting Lets You Identify the Most Profitable Target Audiences

There are too many factors that influence your audience’s response. Assuming that an ad or sales funnel has failed might cause you to pull the plug too early. Retargeting solves this problem by letting you appear in front of users who have seen you and are interested in your business. Many business owners run expensive cold traffic ads on Facebook for years before they set up a retargeting campaign. They think retargeting is too complicated. But in fact, you can get started by dropping a pixel on all of your online assets to help measure your Facebook ads and identify your target audience.

Using the Facebook Ads Manager, you can market to anyone who’s visited your online assets. There’s no need for advanced segmentation. The goal is to remind people who have already seen you that you’re still there. You don’t need to allocate a large portion of your marketing budget either.


“You can make a living on organic traffic. But when you start to value your time more than your money, you want to already be set up to pay for advertising.” - Nic Peterson (40:15-40:30)

Seth and Glen recommend starting with 10% of what you’re already spending on all your traffic. You’ll need to analyze and adjust the frequency of your marketing for the best results. Facebook assigns a quality score to every Facebook page and ad account. High-frequency marketing may annoy users, causing Facebook to give you a low quality score. This could cost you more to advertise in the future. Keeping your quality score high is essential to long-term retargeting success.

You’ll need to determine what messages to send to your audience. If a user has already seen your offer, then case studies and testimonials may be the most effective tools for moving them further into your sales process. If they’ve not seen the offer, then use your best performing ad. So understanding who you’re reaching is essential to getting the best results from your Facebook and retargeting strategies.

Retargeting is one of the most effective ways to reach a larger audience and gain a leading edge over your competitors. It lets you address an individual’s pain points at each point in the process. You let them know why your product or service will work for them while building greater trust in your business.

Today’s marketer needs to understand paid advertising long before they get to the point where they need it. Most people focus on organic marketing because it’s less costly. But organic and paid marketing each have a price. With paid marketing, the cost is money. But with organic you pay with your time. The successful entrepreneur is one who gets to a place where they value their time more than their money. Paid Facebook advertising and retargeting leverages the behaviors of your audience so you achieve maximum and predictable results at lower costs for higher profits.


How to get involved
If you would like more information about Timothy Dick, and the success businesses have gained through work with him, please visit his website.