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199 | Self-Care that isn't a cliche--Talking burnout, home life and more with Tami Hackbarth (P1)

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Release Date: 07/16/2024

246: I am officially AN INFLUENCER (I quit! No, seriously, I do) show art 246: I am officially AN INFLUENCER (I quit! No, seriously, I do)

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Melissa has officially become…an influencer. Except instead of influencing you to buy something, she’s influencing you to do something wildly radical in 2026: delete social media from your phone. In this late-night minisode, Melissa shares the unexpected challenge she took on for the new year—and why it’s been one of the best decisions she’s made for her mental health, focus, and overall life. In this episode, we talk about: The Japanese concept of “misogi” (doing something so hard you have less than a 50% chance of finishing) Why Melissa deleted Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,...

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Final takeaway: If you’re burned out, stuck doing everything yourself, craving support, or dreaming of scaling (even with one hire like a VA), Inspired Organizer TEAMS is designed to help you do it with structure, confidence, and real systems instead of guesswork.

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244 | Do It Scared (but do it anyway) with my MN organizing besties show art 244 | Do It Scared (but do it anyway) with my MN organizing besties

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In this episode, Melissa is back with her Minnesota organizing besties (Missi, Cori, and Kielyn) for an honest conversation about fear, authenticity, mistakes, and doing business scared anyway. If you’ve ever: Frozen because you were afraid to make the wrong decision Stayed in a bad situation because you feared a bad review Wondered if you’re “professional enough” to be yourself Procrastinated something small but important (👀 invoices, SEO, phone calls…) …we FEEL YOU! This episode is part mindset reset, part business strategy, part group therapy—with a lot of...

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FOLLOW ALONG AT PROORGANIZERSTUDIO.COM/LINKS Goal setting doesn’t have to feel overwhelming—or soul-sucking. In this episode, Melissa shares a powerful goal-setting workshop from inside the Inspired Organizer community, led by Cabri. Together, they walk through how to reflect on last year, set goals that actually fit your life and business, and create a plan you’ll stick with—without burnout, guilt, or arbitrary pressure. You’ll hear real examples from organizers setting goals around delegation, growth, visibility, and major transitions, plus practical strategies for breaking big...

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This is part 3 of my convo with Kim--if you missed the first two, they're up for you to go back--but in this one, we're talking about how you can (really, you can)--think about your obligations and your electronic life.  _______________________________________________________________ Navigating Business and Personal Challenges: A Conversation with Kim - Part 3 In the third part of this conversation with Kim, the discussion delves into the concept of obligation and the pressures of societal expectations. Kim and Melissa explore various aspects of personal and professional life, including...

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240 | 240 | "I needed a dopamine detox" (and you do, too!) Part 2 with Kim of Rustic Home Organizing

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This is part 2 of my conversation with Kim Snodgrass of Rustic Home Organizing--in this episode, we talk about her realizing she needed to make major changes and how she did it.  ______________________________________________________________________   Resetting Your Nervous System and Embracing Slow Living: A Conversation with Kim Snodgrass (Part 2) In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with Kim Snodgrass, delving into the concepts of dopamine detox and nervous system reset. They discuss the challenges of disconnecting from technology, the importance of listening to...

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There are few epsiodes each year that get more feedback than when I talk to my friend Kim of Rustic Home Organizing. She's back to kick off 2026 with us and is telling us about her 4th year of organizing, which brought challenges she never envisioned. She has so much to say and I'm excited for you to hear it!  ________________________________________________________________________   Navigating Through Trauma and Overwhelm: A Journey with Kim Snodgrass   As they kick off the fourth installment of their annual series, Kim shares the intense personal and professional challenges...

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238 | Are you tired? We are. show art 238 | Are you tired? We are.

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This podcast is a real one. Cabri and Melissa are talking about burnout, how our phones are making life really hard for everyone, boundaries for 2026, and so much more. We hope this podcast helps you know you're not alone!  _________________________________________________________________________________ Reflections on 2025: Burnout, Balance, and the Quest for Happiness   Melissa shares a reflective and candid podcast discussion about the challenges of 2025, specifically highlighting feelings of burnout and the fast-paced nature of the year.   She and her co-host, Cabri, delve...

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237 | 15 minutes of nonsense show art 237 | 15 minutes of nonsense

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The title says it all. It's just 15 minutes of Cabri and me talking about 100 different random things.   

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When you hear the phrase "Self-Care" what comes to mind? To me, it's hearing people say "go take a bath and read a book" when the reality is the world can feel like it's spinning out of control. My guest today is trying to change our view of what self-care REALLY is. 
 
Today I am talking about balancing the domestic load, in a conversation with life and work coach Tami Hackbarth. We are discussing the Fair Play method, focusing on the redistribution of domestic labor and mental loads to create a more equitable household dynamic. This episode is one where I want to bring together help for you as an entrepreneur, along with ways you can help our organizing clients as well--it's a double win and a double header epsiode! 
 
We are talking about it ALL--family roles, parenting, and the division of labor, emphasizing the importance of communication and implementing changes in a team-oriented manner. Tami shares her expertise in helping clients manage their mental load and prevent burnout, bringing valuable advice for both professional organizers and their clients. The episode stresses the necessity of ongoing conversations and systems to maintain household balance and offers perspectives that are applicable to various family structures.
 
TIME STAMPS: 
 
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview
02:13 Meet Tami Hackbarth: Life and Work Coach
11:49 The Fair Play Method: Redistributing Domestic Labor
17:24 Addressing Burnout and Mental Load
25:34 Client Stories: Teaching Kids Responsibility
26:31 The Laundry Debate: Independence vs. Pampering
30:00 Setting Household Standards: Minimum Standard of Care
32:22 Invisible Labor: Recognizing Unseen Efforts
34:00 Food Decisions: Balancing Family Preferences and Allergies
38:02 Collaborative Parenting: Sharing the Load
45:39 Communication Strategies: Regular Check-ins
47:30 Conclusion: Reflecting on the Conversation
 
LINKS FOR LISTENERS:
 
CONNECT WITH TAMI HACKBARTH: www.tamihackbarth.com
Tami's new course on Reducing Mental Load: https://www.tamihackbarth.com/reduce-mental-load
 
CONNECT WITH MELISSA: hello@proorganizerstudio.com