Jeff Krasno - Good Stress: The Power of Purposeful Discomfort
Release Date: 02/17/2025
Rick Doblin, Ph.D. - MDMA, MAPS & the FDA: What Went Wrong?
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Norman Ohler - LSD's Secret History: From Swiss Labs to Government Control
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info_outlineIn this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Jeff Krasno, entrepreneur, author, and wellness pioneer.
Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-291/?ref=278
Jeff shares his transformative journey from leading Wanderlust to confronting his own health crisis, which led to profound insights about stress, healing, and human potential. He discusses his new book "Good Stress," exploring how embracing evolutionary-aligned challenges can enhance our wellbeing. Jeff offers a unique perspective on rewilding our lives, the intersection of physical and spiritual health, and finding freedom from the fear of death through understanding our deep connection to nature and the cosmos.
Jeff Krasno is the co-founder and CEO of Commune, a masterclass platform for personal and societal well-being and co-creator of Wanderlust, a global series of wellness events. He hosts the Commune podcast, interviewing a wide variety of luminaries from Deepak Chopra and Marianne Williamson to Matthew McConaughey and Gabor Maté.
His latest venture expands Jeff’s personal story and protocols into a book, "Good Stress: The Benefits of Doing Hard Things" (Hay House, March 2025). The book dives deeper into the concepts from the course, distilling insights from over 400 podcast conversations Jeff has conducted, along with his personal experiences applying these ideas to transform his own health. It explores deliberate, self-imposed behaviors that promote social, psychological, and physical well-being, offering both a philosophical exploration of true wellness and practical steps to achieve it.
Highlights:
- Jeff's personal health crisis and transformation from Wanderlust CEO to wellness advocate
- The concept of "good stress" and its role in human evolution and adaptation
- Understanding rewilding as a path to physical and psychological health
- The intersection of physical practices and spiritual development
- How modern comfort may be undermining our natural resilience
- The importance of reconnecting with ancestral movement patterns
- Reframing our relationship with death and mortality
- The unity of physical and metaphysical in human experience
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