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Marlena Robbins - Sacred Reciprocity: Indigenous Perspectives on the Psychedelic Renaissance

The Psychedelic Podcast

Release Date: 05/05/2025

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Marlena Robbins, a proud member of the Diné (Navajo) nation and doctoral student at the UC Berkeley School of Public Health. Marlena shares her personal journey with psilocybin mushrooms and how they helped reconnect her with her heritage and family. Her research examines the cultural, social, and policy aspects of psilocybin use within Native communities, highlighting differences between urban and rural perspectives to inform educational frameworks, culturally-informed psychedelic assisted therapy models, and public health policy.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-302/?ref=278

Marlena Robbins is pursuing a Doctor of Public Health degree at UC Berkeley. Her research examines the cultural, social, and policy aspects of psilocybin use within Native communities, highlighting differences between urban and rural perspectives to inform educational frameworks, culturally-informed psychedelic assisted therapy models and public health policy.

Robbins is a graduate student researcher at the Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics, focusing on program evaluation. Her residency with the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration led to the development of a tribal engagement toolkit, showcasing the significance of psychedelics in spiritual, recreational and conservative contexts among Tribal communities.

Recently, Robbins was invited to join the Federally Recognized American Tribes and Indigenous Community Working Group for the Natural Medicine Health Act with the Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies. This role enables her to advocate for the protection of sacred plants against commercialization and cultural misappropriation.

Highlights:

  • Finding sobriety and healthy motherhood through mushrooms
  • First experience of Hozhó: beauty, harmony, and balance Reconnecting with mother through shared psychedelic healing
  • Advocating for indigenous representation in psychedelic research
  • Applying indigenous critical lens to psychedelic policy
  • Personifying medicines as relatives with their own spirits
  • Evaluating psychedelic integration in Native mental health systems
  • Moving beyond capitalism toward reciprocal relationships with medicines
  • Meeting ancestral trauma with courage instead of avoidance
  • Building bridges between indigenous knowledge and Western healthcare

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