Striking the Balance Between Risk and Tech Innovation - David Shanks - Episode 166
Release Date: 02/08/2026
Striking the Balance Between Risk and Tech Innovation - David Shanks - Episode 166
Public Sector Podcast
In our latest episode, David Shanks, Deputy Commissioner of Enterprise and Integrated Integrity Services at Inland Revenue New Zealand, explores how governments can strike the right balance between embracing technological innovation and managing risk. Drawing on personal experience across regulation, digital policy and emerging technology, he reflects on the opportunities AI presents — and the very real harms that can arise when innovation outpaces oversight. Through compelling real-world stories, David argues that opting out of technological change isn’t realistic. Instead, public sector...
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Progress on the Digital Government Strategic Plan: Advancing Wave 3 Goals - Sarah Tuneberg - Episode 165
Public Sector Podcast
In this episode we hear from Sarah Tuneberg, Director, Colorado Digital Services, as she unpacks what Wave 3 of the Digital Government Strategic Plan means in practice for agencies. She walks through key milestones, reflects on lessons learned from recent digital transformation efforts, and discusses how governments can move past long-standing challenges to deliver more innovative, citizen-focused services. The conversation focuses on helping organisations align their priorities with Wave 3 objectives, offering practical strategies to strengthen service delivery, improve outcomes for...
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From IM/IT Reform to Citizen-Centric Government: The Journey to Connected Services BC - Shannon Salter - Episode 164
Public Sector Podcast
In this episode, Shannon Salter — Deputy Minister to the Premier, Cabinet Secretary and Head of the BC Public Service — shares British Columbia’s vision to make government feel simple, human and connected by 2030. She outlines how “Connected Services BC” aims to redesign services around real life events, so people experience one coordinated system rather than navigating multiple ministries and programs. Through the story of Amina and lessons from the Civil Resolution Tribunal, Shannon explains why true transformation requires more than new technology: it depends on clear purpose,...
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Strength in diversity: Unlocking cyber security’s full potential - Episode 163
Public Sector Podcast
This episode features The Hon. Victor Dominello, Chief Executive Officer, Future Government Institute, Jacqui Loustau, AWSN Executive Director, Australian Women in Security Network, Shyvone Forster, Director - Cyber Operations, Department of Home Affairs who explore how embracing diversity across skills, backgrounds and ways of thinking can significantly strengthen cyber resilience. The discussion highlights how a broader range of perspectives can spark innovation and lead to more creative approaches to tackling complex security threats. The panel also considers why greater gender,...
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Bridging the Digital Skills Gap in Government - Jennifer Dobell - Episode 162
Public Sector Podcast
In this episode, we hear from Jennifer Dobell, Chief Operating Officer at the Australian Financial Security Authority (AFSA), as she shares practical, hard-earned insights on closing the digital skills gap in government. Drawing on her experience leading major national and state workforce strategies, Jennifer breaks down what it really takes to align organisational goals, tech strategy, and workforce planning in environments defined by legacy systems, tight budgets, and rising expectations around AI. Jennifer also offers a candid look at AFSA’s own transformation toward becoming a...
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Visionary Leaders: Future-Proofing Public Services: Digital Priorities and the Road to 2032 - Episode 161
Public Sector Podcast
What does Aotearoa need to build a truly future-ready public service? This episode brings together Karl Le Quesne, Chief Electoral Officer, Electoral Commission, Glenys Talivai, Chief Executive Officer, Public Trust, Megan Main, CEO, ACC, NZ, Jo Healey, VP, Customer, Fujitsu to examine the core elements shaping government to 2032 — from innovation and iwi partnership to the rise of AI and the evolution of citizen experience. Together, they unpack how these forces are redefining what modern public service delivery looks like, and what it will take to ensure New Zealand’s digital...
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Trust, Technology & Rights in the Digital Age - Michael Harvey - Episode 160
Public Sector Podcast
In this episode, we are joined by Michael Harvey, Information and Privacy Commissioner, Government of British Columbia. Commissioner Harvey shares his insights on what it means to take a rights-first approach to innovation — exploring how embedding privacy from the outset can strengthen public trust, enhance digital service delivery, and ensure that innovation in government remains both responsible and citizen-centered. Michael Harvey, Information and Privacy Commissioner, Government of British Columbia For more great insights head to
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Data-Driven Corrections: Turning Operational Data into Actionable Insights - Sylvester Hubbard III - Episode 159
Public Sector Podcast
In this insightful episode of the Public Sector Podcast, Sylvester Hubbard, Director of Enterprise Application Services at the Virginia Department of Corrections, takes listeners inside the complex world of data-driven corrections. He explains how the Department manages vast amounts of data—from inmate management and facility security to re-entry programs and workforce operations—and the challenge of connecting these isolated systems to drive smarter, safer, and more effective decision-making. Hubbard shares how his team is using AI, analytics, and modernization to transform correctional...
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Public Affairs in the Age of AI - Elliot Stein - Episode 158
Public Sector Podcast
When a pre-ransomware cyberattack hit St Vincent’s Health Australia, Acting National Director of Corporate Affairs and Communications Elliot Stein found himself leading through uncertainty. In this episode, he takes us inside the tense 72 hours that followed—where every decision, from going public early to engaging government partners, was guided by one principle: trust. Elliot also reflects on the broader lessons learned—from transparent crisis communication to the irreplaceable role of human connection in an age of AI. As he shares candid insights on leadership, reputation, and...
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Estonia's vision for a data and AI driven society: leading the world in data economy - Ott Velsberg - Episode 157
Public Sector Podcast
In this episode, we explore alongside Ott Velsberg, Government Chief Data Officer, Estonian Ministry of Economic Affairs and Communications, how Estonia—a global pioneer in digital transformation—is redefining what’s possible with data and artificial intelligence. As one of the most digitally advanced nations in the world, Estonia is moving beyond e-governance to integrate AI across its economy, public services, and daily life. With a firm commitment to transparency, ethics, and citizen trust, the country is building a future where innovation and accountability go hand in hand. ...
info_outlineIn our latest episode, David Shanks, Deputy Commissioner of Enterprise and Integrated Integrity Services at Inland Revenue New Zealand, explores how governments can strike the right balance between embracing technological innovation and managing risk. Drawing on personal experience across regulation, digital policy and emerging technology, he reflects on the opportunities AI presents — and the very real harms that can arise when innovation outpaces oversight.
Through compelling real-world stories, David argues that opting out of technological change isn’t realistic. Instead, public sector leaders must learn to move forward deliberately, paying close attention to early warning signs, lived experience and unintended consequences. The episode offers a thoughtful, grounded perspective on responsible innovation in an age of rapid digital change.
David Shanks, Deputy Commissioner, Enterprise and Integrity Services, Inland Revenue NZ
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