Episode 438: The Discovery of 2 MS Subtypes with Dr. Arman Eshaghi
Release Date: 01/19/2026
Episode 438: The Discovery of 2 MS Subtypes with Dr. Arman Eshaghi
RealTalk MS
One of the more confusing aspects of MS is that it can present differently from one person to the next. A research team at University College London may have uncovered a reason for that when they identified two new, and quite different, subtypes of MS. Joining me to walk us through this discovery and to explain how it may impact MS clinical care is the study's principal investigator, Dr. Arman Eshaghi. We're also sharing study results that may explain how the Epstein-Barr Virus triggers MS in some individuals. We'll tell you about the free online fitness and wellness...
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Joining me to walk us through this discovery and to explain how it may impact MS clinical care is the study's principal investigator, Dr. Arman Eshaghi.
We're also sharing study results that may explain how the Epstein-Barr Virus triggers MS in some individuals.
We'll tell you about the free online fitness and wellness programs for veterans living with MS offered by the Paralyzed Veterans of America.
And we'll explain how the latest entrant in the AI for healthcare revolution can prepare you for your next appointment with your neurologist.
We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!
This Week: Discovering 2 new subtypes of MS :22
Study results show how the Epstein-Barr Virus may trigger MS 1:20
The PVA is offering free online fitness and wellness classes for veterans with MS 5:45
Claude for Healthcare joins the AI in healthcare revolution 7:03
Dr. Arman Eshaghi discusses his team's discovery of 2 subtypes of MS 9:59
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EBV Infection and HLA-DR15 Jointly Drive Multiple Sclerosis by Myelin Peptide Presentation
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(25)01495-3
STUDY: Combined Magnetic Resonance Imaging and Serum Analysis Reveals Distinct Multiple Sclerosis Types
https://academic.oup.com/brain/article/148/12/4578/8321558
PVA Offers Free Online Fitness & Wellness Classes for Vets with MS
https://pva.org/sports-recreation/online-programs
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RealTalk MS Episode 438
Guests: Dr. Arman Eshaghi