Don’t Say There’s No One Left: The Market Isn’t Too Small. Your Strategy Is
Release Date: 09/23/2025
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Every growing leader eventually faces this tension. You know the standard needs to rise. You see the gaps in accountability. You know the team is capable of more. But the moment you think about tightening expectations, a fear creeps in. Will people think I’ve changed? Will morale drop? Will they stop liking me? In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, we tackle one of the most common leadership fears: how to raise standards without becoming the bad guy. Because the truth is simple. Raising standards doesn’t damage culture. Avoiding them eventually does. Episode Breakdown [00:00] The...
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Protect the Standard: How to Replace Underperformers Without Damaging Culture
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Every leader faces this moment. Someone on the team is not performing. Maybe they are loyal. Maybe they have been with you for years. Maybe they are a great person. But the results are not there, or worse, the standard is slipping. And the fear creeps in. If I remove this person, what happens to morale? Will the team feel unsafe? Will I look disloyal? In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, we unpack one of the hardest leadership tensions you will ever navigate: how to protect culture while making performance-based decisions. Episode Breakdown [00:00] The Leadership Tension Replacing...
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Anxiety Means You Care: Why Recruiting Still Feels Risky Even When You’re Experienced
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You’ve recruited dozens. Maybe hundreds. You know the scripts. You know the process. You understand the industry. So why does recruiting anxiety still show up? In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, we get honest about something even high-performing leaders rarely admit: recruiting is personal. And when something is personal, it can feel vulnerable. If you’ve ever hesitated before making the call or felt resistance before following up, this episode will help you understand why, and what to do about it. Episode Breakdown [00:00] The Real Question Why does recruiting anxiety show up...
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Vision Fit Over Resume Fit: How to Read a Social Profile Like a Recruiting Leader
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Stay Curious, Stay Ahead: How to Lead With Innovation in a Market That Never Stops Moving
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You’ve worked hard to build a strong culture. But now you’re growing, and the real challenge begins: How do you protect what you’ve built while expanding across markets, teams, or time zones? In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I share the strategy for attracting and evaluating leaders who don’t just fit your culture… they scale it. If you’re recruiting high performers, future regionals, or anyone who will lead others, this is the playbook you need. Episode Breakdown [00:00] Intro – What happens when one leadership hire changes everything? Why protecting culture during...
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The Math-to-Momentum Playbook: Turn Growth Goals Into a Recruiting System That Scales
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Every year, leaders set big goals. Grow the team. Double production. Scale. But without structure, those goals fade by February. In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk you through the exact system I teach leaders across real estate, mortgage, insurance, and agency sales, a system that turns your production target into a tangible, trackable recruiting rhythm. This is how you make growth inevitable. Episode Breakdown [00:00] Why Most Growth Plans Fail – Leaders set production goals with no math, no cadence, and no plan to execute [00:45] What the Math-to-Momentum Playbook Solves...
info_outlineFeel like you've already talked to everyone in your market? Think again. In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk you through how to build a solid recruiting list even when your territory feels tapped out. You’ll learn how to segment by pain, not just production, and uncover five overlooked talent pools hiding in plain sight.
Most leaders are working from the same spreadsheet. But the best recruiters think differently. They segment. They personalize. They win.
Episode Breakdown
[00:00] Introduction – Why small-market recruiting isn’t a numbers problem, it’s a perspective problem
[01:00] The Mindset Shift – When you say “there’s no one left,” your brain stops looking
[01:30] What Most Leaders Do Wrong – They go after the same top 20% that everyone else does
[02:00] Segment the Market Into 5 Buckets
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Top Producers – Most visible, most prospected, slowest to move
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Under-Leveraged Mid-Tier – 3 to 5 loans a month with no support, high potential
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Plateaued Veterans – 10+ years in the business, stuck, but open if shown a new path
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Rising Stars – 1 to 2 loans per month, overlooked by most, loyal if developed
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Career-Adjacent Talent – Processors, assistants, real estate pros, or ex-LOs with untapped potential
[05:30] Rethink Your List – Start defining your recruiting list by potential, not just production
[06:00] Where to Pull Names
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Public data (MLS, Scotsman Guide, MBS Highway)
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Your LOS
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Open houses and builder relationships
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Your own CRM and referral network
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Social media tagging and organic engagement
[06:30] Ask Better Questions -
Who do I already know?
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Who does my team know?
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Who is active on social but not being recruited?
[07:00] Segment and Match Messaging – Every list needs its own approach. Veterans don’t respond to the same script as newcomers
[07:30] Nurture Your List – Monthly touches, value-first content, and staying top-of-mind builds relationship over time
[08:00] Show Up Publicly – If you aren’t visible, even the best segmented list won’t work
[08:30] Final Challenge – Pick one segment, build a list of 25, and reach out to 5 this week. Do this every week for 90 days and watch what happens
Key Takeaways
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Your Market Isn’t Too Small – You’re just looking through the same lens as everyone else
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Segment by Pain, Not Production – The best opportunities are in overlooked categories
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Five Lists. Five Strategies – Each persona requires different messaging and follow-up
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Stop Treating Your List Like a One-Time Task – It’s a living system that needs rhythm and nurture
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Visibility Multiplies Trust – Public presence makes your recruiting touches land with more weight
You don’t need hundreds of people in your market. You just need the right 30 to 50 people to believe in your leadership. Build the list. Show up. Stay consistent.
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