629: John Stage on Always Under Construction
Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore
Release Date: 07/04/2019
Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore
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info_outlineIn 1988, tired of the gypsy lifestyle, John Stage decided to settle in Syracuse, NY, where he opened his first Dinosaur Bar-B-Que restaurant. In the following years, Stage has expanded with locations in Rochester, Manhattan, Troy, Newark, New Jersey, Stamford, Brooklyn, and Buffalo.
Show Notes
Success Quote or Mantra
- "The road to success is always under construction."
In this episode with John Stage we will discuss:
- No straight line to success
- It’s not easy so you must love it
- How to go from biker to restaurant owner
- John’s history before Dinosaur Bar-B-Que
- How to name and brand a restaurant
- The inspiration of long-established forms of cooking
- Bringing southern food to NYC
- Mobile foos operations
- Getting capital
- Rough opening days
- Altering the business based on volume
- Successfully bringing different demographics together at your restaurant
- Aim, put people in place to help you succeed…and THEN shoot
- Recognizing when you need help
- Your culture suffers when you open too many restaurant too soon
- Selling one of your products in retail
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Knowledge bombs
- Which "it factor" habit, trait, or characteristic you believe most contributes to your success?
- Curiosity and Perseverance
- What is your biggest weakness?
- Patience, too eager
- What's one question you ask or thing you look for during an interview?
- Curiosity, engagement, body language, a connection
- What's a current challenge? How are you dealing with it?
- Lack of people in the workforce
- Share one code of conduct or behavior you teach your team.
- Respect
- What is one uncommon standard of service you teach your staff?
- One approach does not work for everyone, tailor the experience to the table
- What's one book we must read to become a better person or restaurant owner?
- Setting the Table by Danny Meyer
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- Setting the Table by Danny Meyer
- If you got the news that you'd be leaving this world tomorrow and all memories of you, your work, and your restaurants would be lost with your departure with the exception of 3 pieces of wisdom you could leave behind for the good of humanity, what would they be?
- Respect people
- Love what you do, passion
- Give back and work with your community
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