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Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore

Release Date: 05/28/2020

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Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore

To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to joinrunlive.com to get access to today's guest specifically OR join the newly relaunched Restaurant Unstoppable Network!    Alexis Guttridge is an experienced hospitality consultant and advisor who provides on-the-ground operational support for restaurants, hotels, and venues. Originally an NYC transplant who built a highly regarded career as a restaurateur and general manager in Boston, she is now based in Melbourne, Australia, where she focuses on optimizing venue workflows and front-of-house culture    Alexis...

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Today's guest will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on October 5th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to to get access to today's guest specifically OR join the newly relaunched Restaurant Unstoppable Network! Matt Wampler is the co-founder and CEO of ClearCOGS, a restaurant intelligence platform using AI and predictive analytics to help operators forecast demand and make smarter decisions around prep, purchasing, and labor. Before founding ClearCOGS, Matt took over a struggling Jimmy John’s franchise at age 21, turned it...

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Today's guest will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on September 28th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to to get access to today's guest specifically OR join the newly relaunched Restaurant Unstoppable Network! Adam Weisblatt is the co-founder of Los Angeles–based Last Word Hospitality, the restaurant group behind acclaimed concepts including Found Oyster, Barra Santos, Queen’s Raw Bar + Grill, Same Same Thai, and Red Dog Saloon. Since launching Last Word Hospitality in 2014, he has helped build people-driven,...

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Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore

Today's guests will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on September 28th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to to get access to today's guest specifically OR join the newly relaunched Restaurant Unstoppable Network! Danny Azzarello and Alan Frati are the co-founders of CRACK'D Kitchen and Coffee. Both guests grew up in restaurants and learned the fundamentals from working in profitable and system-heavy chains. They met while working together and decided to open CRACK'D in 2019. Today there are 5 locations, along with retail and...

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To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Chef Jason Santos is the chef/owner of the Buttermilk & Bourbon Group, a family of New Orleans–inspired Southern restaurants in Massachusetts including Buttermilk & Bourbon, Citrus & Salt, and related concepts. A Massachusetts native and Newbury College culinary grad, he rose through Boston kitchens before gaining national attention as the...

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Kirstina Zhao calls San Antonio, TX home. Prior to taking over the family restaurant, Sichuan House, Kristina was being groomed for the medical field... that didn't happen. Zhao ended up at the University of Texas where she studied Communications and Public Relations. Next, she went into the wireless industry on the B2B side. In 2015, Kristina came back home to San Antonio to help her father with the family restaurant. It didn't take long for her to get her millennial hands knuckle deep into the day-to-day operations. 5 years later she runs the show.

Kristina came on my radar by way of Anna Tauzin. Anna is my go-to authority for all things delivery and take-out. So, when she tells me I need to get someone on the show-- I listen. Today we're here to make an example of Zhao's solution for delivery and take out. We share how she came up with her idea and what tools she's using.

Show notes…

Check out Blinkist: Big Ideas in Small Packages as mentioned in today's episode!

Check out Toast POS as mentioned in today's episode!

Check out Summer Glen Creative as mentioned in today's episode!

Check out Re-turnz app as mentioned in today's episode!

 

Calls to ACTION!!!

Favorite success quote or mantra:

  • "Rule your mind or it will rule you."
  • "Happiness is a state of mind, a way of living; it is not a destination."
  • " Don't take 'no' for an answer."
In today's episode with Kristina Zhao we will discuss:
  • Online ordering during COVID-19
  • The pivot to online ordering - best practices
  • The only person you can control is yourself
  • Proving yourself to your parents/mentors
  • Immigrating to the US (immigrant parents)
  • Communication is key
  • Empathy
  • Food as medicine
  • Mentors
  • The benefit of having a little experience when entering the industry
  • Why Kristina chose Toast POS
  • Using built-in iOS technology to forward your telephone to your cell phone. This allows you to text your guest.
  • How Kristina is using Summer Glen Creative for website hosting and web design. This is just for their landing page. Currently offering complimentary landing pages if you use their hosting***
  • Using Re-turnz app as their delivery component
  • Social media
  • COVID-19 best practices

Today's sponsor:

Restaurant365 is a cloud-based, all-in-one, restaurant-specific accounting and back-office platform that seamlessly integrates with POS systems, payroll providers, food and beverage vendors. It generates accurate real-time reporting and analysis in user-friendly dashboards, facilitating immediate, data-driven decision making. Restaurant365 eliminates manual, error-prone processes and is designed to help restaurant businesses grow with functionality that helps optimize labor costs, reduce food costs and increase revenue.

Toast - A POS built for restaurants by restaurant people Adapt fast with Toast's cloud-based restaurant POS system that updates to evolve your POS along with changing industry trends and guest expectations. Toast is built exclusively for restaurants of all shapes and sizes, with over 2/3 of our employees having restaurant experience to serve you better. Online Ordering - Let guests easily order directly from your restaurant for pickup or contactless delivery to keep revenue flowing during these uncertain times. Toast Delivery Services Dispatch local drivers through an on-demand network to keep your community fed and revenue coming in.

 

Contact info:

The Sichuan House Instagram: @sichuaneats

Kristina's Instagram: @xtinazeeeee

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Huge thanks to Kristina Zhao for joining me for another awesome episode. Until next time!

 

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