Why you can't actually "get rich quick" (with Mark Batterson)
SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
Release Date: 11/29/2025
Should Christians Invest in Evil Companies?
SeedTime with Bob and Linda Lotich
Most of us have no idea what our retirement money is actually funding. A few years ago I started wondering if some of mine was supporting things I would never support on purpose. So in this episode, I answer a question I get all the time. Should Christians invest in companies that conflict with their faith? I walk through the two main approaches: biblically responsible investing and buying in to influence a company from the inside. I share the question I ask before buying any individual stock. And I reveal the spending blind spot that might matter even more than your portfolio. Strong...
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7 Biblical money principles most Christians never hear (but should)
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Most Christians have heard the money advice about tithing and getting out of debt. But there are money principles in the Bible almost nobody teaches. And often times they are the ones that change everything for us!!! So in this episode Linda and I walk through 7 biblical money principles most Christians never hear. They come straight out of Scripture, a lot of it from Proverbs. Just so we are clear, these are not just financial tips. This is an architecture for a financially strong life that honors God. If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love to send you a free copy of our book. You just cover...
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Lisa Bevere on Marriage, Money, and Why Men and Women Were Never Meant to Be Enemies
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She paid cash to deliver two of her babies. She had no insurance and almost no money. So Lisa Bevere did it using the stock market. That is just one of the wild stories she told us. Today, Lisa and her husband John have given away more than 60 million books in over 150 languages. But they started out broke, praying about whether they could afford a fax machine. In this episode, Lisa sits down with Linda and me to talk about marriage, money, and faith. She shares the moment in the shower that changed her marriage forever. We talk about why men and women were never meant to be enemies. She...
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5 Biblical Investing Secrets Most Christians Have Completely Missed
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>>> First, grab the guide I told you about in this episode: A few years ago we sold off some Tesla stock to pay off our second house. If you run the math on what that stock would be worth now, the result is honestly brutal. But I felt the Lord tell me clearly to do it. And looking back, I think I see exactly why He said what He said. In this episode Linda and I walk through five biblical investing secrets most Christians have completely missed: the verse Solomon wrote down 3,000 years before a man named Harry Markowitz won a Nobel Prize for the same idea, why God rebuked a servant in...
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The Prayer That Paid Off Our Mortgage
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Grab our brand new prayer book here: The first time I prayed a prayer I thought might be selfish, I was 20 years old and brand new in my faith. God said yes. I spent the next seven months refusing to accept the answer because I could not believe He had actually said it. Years later I prayed a different prayer, this one about our mortgage. The answer came back in a way I never would have written. Ten months later the mortgage was gone. In this episode Linda and I get into the four reasons most Christians do not pray about money (and why all four are wrong), the five categories of prayer most...
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What We Actually Believe About Tithing (After 15 Years of Avoiding This)
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The first time I ever heard the word tithing, I watched a guest preacher publicly shame two guys at the altar of a small Florida church for not doing it consistently. They walked back to their seats with their heads down. I never forgot it. Linda has a different shame story — quiet, private, ten years long, all over a single tithe she felt led to give to friends going on a mission trip instead of her local church. Two completely different shame stories, same root system. Both deadly to generosity. In this episode, we finally do the conversation we've sidestepped for almost two decades. We...
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We Let a Church Ask Us Anything About Money (Here's What They Actually Wanted to Know)
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Mike Tyson made $400 million and ended up $23 million in debt. A janitor named Ronald Reed made minimum wage his whole career and left $8 million to charity. The difference had nothing to do with income — and everything to do with one rule. That's where this conversation starts. Linda and I were guests at a church for their "Money Talks" series and the questions were so good we wanted to bring this to the podcast. We walk through the John Wesley framework we based our whole book on (make all you can, save all you can, give all you can — and enjoy it), the one number that tells you whether...
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Matt Chandler: I Won't Even Let Billionaires Bless Me (Here's Why)
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Matt Chandler has been in the room with actual billionaires on multiple occasions — and the way he describes what happens to people who have everything almost everyone else is chasing isn't what most of us would expect. He told us he won't even let some of them bless him. And after 23 years pastoring one of the most affluent suburbs in America, he's seen exactly what the chase actually does to families. In this conversation, we get into a question Matt says nobody has asked him: what he's actually watched wealth do to people up close. We talk about the upgrade cycle most Christian families...
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THIS is how we gave $1 Million
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We are opening up our Mission Driven Millionaire Cohort to 15 people and we are enrolling now until spots fill up. Get details and apply here: Also, this is an episode you might just want to watch (you know, with your eyeballs lol) for it to make the most sense. And you can . I have coached people pulling in 250,000 a year who are completely broke. No margin, no savings, no clue where any of it went. And I have sat with families bringing in 40,000 who quietly become millionaires. It is not income. It is not pinching pennies. There is one specific thing that decides which side of that line you...
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The 4 Stages of Money (And Why Most People Get Stuck in Stage 2)
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37% of people making $250,000 a year are living paycheck to paycheck right now. Which means the thing keeping most of us stuck financially has almost nothing to do with how much we make. Linda and I have coached people pulling in $250k who are dead broke. We've watched a $20,000 raise get absorbed by lifestyle inside six months and leave them exactly where they started. The problem isn't income. The problem is that most of us are working hard on the wrong math problem. In this episode we walk through the four stages of money (surviving, stable, secure, and surplus) and the one mistake almost...
info_outlinePastor and bestselling author Mark Batterson joins Bob to unpack one of the most misunderstood principles of growth: the way breakthroughs actually happen—gradually, then suddenly.
From Warren Buffett’s compounding to Jim Carrey’s famed $10M check, to the long arc of ministry, writing, generosity, and family life, this conversation is a hopeful reset for anyone who feels “behind.”
In This Episode
- Why most “overnight success” stories take decades
- What 95-year-olds say they would do differently (and how it should change our lives today)
- The “25-year time machine” mindset that makes ordinary moments priceless
- Why young adults often underestimate what God can do in 10–20 years
- How Mark pastors a church with seven properties and zero debt — and the long-term mindset behind it
- Turning your church “inside out”: how NCC generates $2M/year through marketplace engagement
- The hidden power of giving goals (and the difference between getting vs. giving goals)
- The surprising truth about Buffett’s wealth: it’s not returns… it’s time
- Mark’s take on grand gestures, faith steps, and why God honors long obedience
- Bob’s story of writing a 5-year giving goal that seemed impossible—and what God did
- What to do when your dream is taking way longer than you thought
Key Quotes
- “You’ll overestimate what you can do in two years and underestimate what God can do in ten.” —Mark Batterson
- “Faith is taking the first step before God reveals the second.” —Mark Batterson
- “The greatest risk is taking no risks.” —Mark Batterson
- “We decided to do a ten-year book launch. Let’s give it a decade and see if it’s any good.” —Bob Lotich
Timestamps
00:00 — Why get-rich-quick thinking never works
01:00 — Introducing Mark Batterson & the story behind Gradually, Then Suddenly
02:00 — What 95-year-olds regret most
04:00 — The “25-year time machine” for parenting and life
05:00 — Why we plan vacations better than our futures
07:00 — The power of long-range thinking (and why it’s so rare)
08:00 — Why most people quit right before the breakthrough
10:00 — Bob’s 10-year book launch strategy
12:00 — Early results vs. long obedience
14:00 — The myth of the fast start: Circle Maker sales + slow beginnings
16:00 — Teaching a generation to love “gradually”
19:00 — Mark’s 29-year pastoral journey and miraculous property story
21:00 — Why NCC’s venue generates $2M/year
24:00 — What church leaders can learn from marketplace strategy
28:00 — Jim Carrey’s $10M check and the power of a grand gesture
29:00 — Bob’s five-year giving goal that changed everything
32:00 — How giving goals open doors for God to move
34:00 — What to do with dreams that are taking too long
35:00 — Closing encouragement + where to get the book
Resources & Links
- Mark Batterson’s new book: Gradually, Then Suddenly
- The Circle Maker by Mark Batterson
- Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
- Perennial Seller by Ryan Holiday
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