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SPOS #983 – Matthew Weinzierl On Space And New Economic Frontiers

Thinking With Mitch Joel

Release Date: 05/11/2025

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Welcome to episode #983 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.

Matthew Weinzierl is not just thinking about the future of the economy - he’s thinking about the economy of the final frontier. As a professor at Harvard Business School and a Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research, Matt brings the analytical rigor of economic policy to a space sector that’s shifting from sci-fi to IPO. In our conversation, we unpack the big thesis behind his new book Space To Grow - Unlocking The Final Economic Frontier(co-authored with Mehak Sarang Rousseau), which reframes space as something more than spectacle or science - it’s a place where real economic value is being created right now. This isn’t about day trips to orbit or Mars hotels (not yet). It’s about the role of market forces, national security, broadband access, sustainability, microgravity manufacturing, and the essential debate between centralized control and decentralized innovation. Matt has built a career studying tax policy and the philosophical underpinnings of economic systems, and now he’s applying that lens to a commercial space industry that’s still defining its rules. We talk about SpaceX’s dominance and what it means for competition, the outdated frameworks of international space law, and why economists are uniquely suited to help structure the future of space activity. We also explore the symbolic and practical value of human exploration, and how figures like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos shape the public’s understanding of what's possible (and what might be hype). What makes Matt so compelling is his clarity... he doesn’t get swept up in the cosmic dreams without asking who benefits, who governs, and what kind of economic system we’re building in orbit and beyond. If you’ve been curious about the real forces shaping the space economy - and what it might mean for Earth - this episode is a must-listen. Enjoy the conversation...

Chapters:

(00:00) - Introduction to Space Economics.
(03:05) - The Intersection of Economics and Space.
(06:09) - Challenges in the Space Sector.
(09:06) - Market Dynamics and Competition in Space.
(12:11) - The Role of National Security in Space.
(14:48) - The Future of Space Exploration.
(18:02) - Arguments For and Against Space Exploration.
(29:32) - The Double-Edged Sword of Celebrity in Business.
(31:13) - Decentralization: Opportunities and Challenges.
(35:26) - Balancing Centralization and Decentralization in Space.
(38:32) - The Ethical Implications of Space Exploration.
(40:17) - Regulating the New Frontier: Challenges Ahead.
(44:54) - The Reality of Mars Missions.
(48:53) - Unlocking the Value of Space Resources.
(51:37) - The Role of Humans in Space Exploration.
(53:46) - Economic Policies and Global Trade Dynamics.