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The O'Leary Review - Episode 8 - John Ziegler

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Release Date: 09/21/2022

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Mega podcast for you. Two hours of content.

We talk PGA vs LIV golf, college football, and step back into “The Penn State Case.”

We’ve provided some links and a bit of commentary for you. The main show notes page will be updated at

https://briandoleary.substack.com/podcast

Search for John Ziegler - With the Benefit of Hindsight when you get to that page. It should be Episode 8 of The O'Leary Review Podcast.

This podcast is definitely a "conversation that matters" ...

John Ziegler is a documentary filmmaker, author, Emmy-winning commentator, podcaster, former radio talk show host and television sportscaster, and was called “An American Hero,” by former Penn State president Graham Spanier in an inscription of his book The Lion’s Den. This description is mocked by Ziegler’s wife and kids.

John was last with us in February on episode 77 of Sportlanders the Podcast when we spoke for over 90 minutes on the Penn State-Joe Paterno-Jerry Sandusky scandal that emerged in November 2011.

John’s podcast, which he hosts with Liz Habib, called With the Benefit of Hindsight is over 60 hours of detailed reporting on the case.

In this podcast series, “The truth about what happened at Penn State has been locked in a vault for ten years — you’ve just been given the key.”

You can find everything relating to the podcast at FramingPaterno.com

Other than his tireless reporting on the truth in the Penn State debacle, which includes a 2012 documentary called The Framing of Joe Paterno, Ziegler is most well- known for his second feature documentary film called Media Malpractice which covered the 2008 presidential election.

Ziegler is an alumnus of Georgetown University and grew up in Pennsylvania, though with no direct ties to Penn State University.

 

LIV Golf issue

The LIV is in the process of ruining pro golf. It will eventually—both directly and indirectly—destroy the essence of professional golf.

The PGA Tour

The Tour went a long way in setting us back when it came to its response to the covid situation.

Professional golf is a sport that is uniquely designed to change people’s lives. Competing in LIV does not do that.

The Saudis have not created a new market. It is an “artificial stimulus.” A “kamikaze” attack on an American institution perhaps.

Golf, to be compelling, must have an element of fear. When everyone becomes super-rich, there’s nothing to fear.

Tiger Woods (& Rory McIlroy) role in the PGA Tour … Is the Tour becoming cartelized? The golf media won’t ask the questions because it is terrified of Tiger Woods.

Does the sport of golf need professional golf to thrive or even survive?

 

College football

Sports have contributed to the cultural decline over the last two-and-a-half years. This much is clear.

Pro golf, college and pro basketball, and college football all had the chance to step up and be leaders in the culture and stand up to the crazy policies implemented by the covid regime, but none of them did. Every other sports organization and league across the world were cowardly as well.

How and why did this happen?

The cancellation of the 2020 Ivy League basketball tournament started the ball rolling…

“College football no longer exists.”

Winning the National Championship is now the only thing.

The NIL money, the new transfer rules, and the upcoming 12-team playoff has destroyed what was once perhaps the favorite sport of much of the country—college football.

It’s not the same sport that it was even three years ago.

What in the heck is the point of college now when academia is ruined, and the college sports landscape is ruined?

 

The Penn State Case

We come at this discussion of the case with the perspective that Jerry Sandusky is innocent and therefore Joe Paterno’s reputation has been dragged through the mud unfairly. The conversation then builds on that.

John Ziegler’s reporting on this case leads to no other conclusion other than Sandusky’s innocence and that Paterno was certainly framed, thus becoming a fall guy for the ineptitude of the corporate media and the vendetta academia has against sports—college football in particular.

If this claim disturbs you at all, you need to first do some basic research on the facts of the case.

Start with Episode 77 of Sportlanders the Podcast and if you have the time, listen to the entirety of With the Benefit of Hindsight.

The Penn State Case has proven to be a perfect storm, not a hoax or a conspiracy or a cover-up…the cover-up comes elsewhere with the media and the prosecution.

  • Conspiracy: “a secret plan or agreement between persons for an unlawful or harmful purpose, especially with political motivation, while keeping their agreement secret from the public or from other people affected by it.”
  • Conspiracy Theory: “an explanation for an event or situation that involves a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation.”

The covid era was not a conspiracy, either. Much like this case it was the dumb leading the stupid to insane conclusions.

“I want to make something clear. I am not raising doubt about what happened. I know what really did and did not happen. What we were told did not happen.

It did not. Period!

Did not happen! Jerry Sandusky is completely innocent—as insane I myself would have thought that was insane. If you told me that in 2012, I would have thought that was insane. In fact, when people did tell me that in 2012, I thought they were nuts.”

...

“This whole saga is the worst example in modern history of a complete fraud that was—to this day still—accepted as gospel truth by every single element of the news media and not one of those news media members. Not one of them can tell you even the basic facts of the case…

And it doesn’t even bother them! It doesn’t even bother them that they can’t tell you any facts of the case. Because they know the truth because everybody in their bubble said the same thing and even though we know they’ve been wrong so many times.”

—John Ziegler

 

Reference the Duke – BYU volleyball thing and then the BYU – University of Oregon football thing. Ziegler was on with Dan Abrams on NewsNation the other night talking about it all.

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1572065085471993857

 

The Jay Paterno diagram of how the showers in the Lasch Football Building at Penn State were designed. After this case broke, there exist no known photos of the showers and the entire building was renovated in 2012-2013.

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/860667211786067968

 

Did the prosecution team tell Mike McQueary to “clam up?”

 

The Ziegler appearance mentioned with Piers Morgan in 2013. https://youtu.be/jwsAqaRKLDA

 

John Ziegler – Twitter 

 

The Sandusky Case Flow Chart 

 

The horrible HBO movie Paterno. Not recommended whatsoever.

 

How do Hall of Fame coach Dick Vermeil and longtime NFL and college head coach Herm Edwards tie into this case?

Can’t say for sure, because nobody will talk on the record. Interestingly, Vermeil wrote the foreword to Jerry Sandusky’s book, Touched.

Herman Edwards, a former player for Vermeil, according to a conversation Vermeil had with Ziegler, told his former coach, “There’s a guy in California who’s going to break the case wide open…”

Probably this guy…

Penn Law Fumble — PennLawFumble.info on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine

 

We talk about the “Ohio State wrestling scandal” involving Ohio congressman Jim Jordan. I don’t know of any decent reporting on this after a cursory glance of the search engine results. If anyone has a decent breakdown … of the truth … please leave it in the comments section.

 

Some Twitter follows for more clarity in the “Penn State case”:

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud

https://twitter.com/VexPith

https://twitter.com/AndyFavor1

https://twitter.com/WhiteyBall24

https://twitter.com/DombroskiMike

https://twitter.com/AllPSUfootball

https://twitter.com/TheodorouJustin

https://twitter.com/SteveMasters7

There are many more and I apologize if I missed you…

 

Brian O'Leary