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Choosing the Right Financial Advisor | Part One: Work with Someone You Trust

Unfiltered Finance

Release Date: 03/30/2023

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Hello and

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 welcome to unfiltered Finance. I'm your host Tom romano.

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 And thank you for joining us this episode today. We

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 are talking about choosing the right financial advisor and

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 I have the perfect guests for this topic

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 joining us here today first and foremost Mike

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 store who is a senior Regional director

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 at symmetry Partners. I asked Mike to be

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 on the podcast because he works with thousands of financial advisors across

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 the country. He knows which ones

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 are doing the appropriate job and due diligence and

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 planning for their clients and the others who might be dare. I

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 say fake it Mike faking it and of

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 course a long time friend of mine Mr. Peter loponis

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 who's a certified financial planner and financial advisor

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 with Apollo wealth and happens to be

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 my personal financial planner. So gentlemen, thank you both for joining

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 us here today. You're welcome, Tom. Thanks Tom. Great to be here. I thought

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 this was appropriate topic for us to discuss.

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you know coming out of the pandemic I travel a

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 lot for business and I've been on many planes

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 over the last few months and you know, whether it's an

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 airport or

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Are sitting next to someone on a plane and just bring

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 up some small talk and people understand

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 that I'm working in the financial services a business.

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 And the first question. I always get is got any

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 tips. What should I be buying? What

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 should I be selling? Right? It's a very common question and for

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 years, my response has always been and I'm

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 a firm believer of this is the best advice I can give anyone in

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 that moment is to work with

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 someone you trust financial planner financial

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 advisor that's working in a fiduciary capacity. I

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 have a number of reasons why I say that but

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 Mike I'd love to hear it from your perspective. Why should

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 investors people planning for

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 retirement or for any other Financial need be working

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 with a financial professional? That's a great question.

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 I think you hit on it at the in your opening

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 remarks Tom is that

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You know.

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Having traveled the country for many

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 years working with a number of different types of advisors and meeting

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 with clients at the same time, you know clients have

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 different desperate needs in terms of when it

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 comes to financial Financial advice so they can

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 certainly learn about it on on a website if they

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 want to but I found that especially the

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 best advisors are working working with

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 clients and from that

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 perspective. I know who these advisors are.

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And I know they're doing a great job for their clients. And for me,

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 the one thing that comes to mind besides everything

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 else at a financial advisor does because I think about it in

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 my own world is comfort and peace of mind, right? There's lots

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 of different moving Parts when it comes to planning.

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And and what you're going to do with your money for the long term and even myself

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 being in this business, I worry about am I making

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 the right decisions? So I think a lot of it comes down

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 to peace of mind and comfort. I think that that's high

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 level. There's a lot of you can drill down from there

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 but I think for most clients if you think about it, it's getting that

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 pressure off of you and bringing a

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 professional and to make sure that you're meeting your life goals, whatever those might

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 be sure. No, absolutely. I think what I'm hearing you say, I

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 hear things like planning and long-term and Peter

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 I'll shift over to you. So

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 what I'm hearing Mike say and I loved for you to plan

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 on this when someone asks me got any tips,

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 why is that the wrong question?

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well, I think

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the answer they're looking for everyone wants something

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 that's exciting and and sexy that

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 they can tell.

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Their friends. I think you've used the term water cooler alpha or

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 Golf Course Alpha everyone thinks somehow because we're

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 sitting here on the inside. We're insiders. We've

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 got more information than than they do

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 as as retail investors, but

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 that's just not the case and and it's not about

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 hitting that home run with the stock because

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 if you're gonna be picking individual stocks, there's gonna

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 be some home runs in there, but there's got to be some singles and

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 doubles there's gonna be some losers too. It just

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 it's gonna happen statistically, but when

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 we talk about a plan and what

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 it can do for you long term the sense of confidence

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 that it's going to give you. That's what you really need. Hey, it's

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 great to be able to say Jesus I bought in at this stock when when it

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 was at 10 and it went to a hundred and in two years. It's a

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 great story, but

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Is better to have a sense of confidence and comfort with your

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 plan and with your financial outcomes, and that's why

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 sitting down and taking the time to go through a plan with a

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 cfp with someone who's a fiduciary is really in your

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 best interest versus getting that that hot stock tip.

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 Yeah, I would agree. The one thing that

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 I always comes to mind when someone says got any tips the first

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 thing I'm thinking well if I had some I wouldn't tell you I'd keep

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 it all for myself, right? There's wildly more Capital

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 to be to be earned when you keep those secrets to yourself right quick

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 short story. Tom and

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 Peter. My son is out in gainfully employed

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 in the Working World now and he has a little bit of money and he

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 asked me about a year ago a year and a half ago to Dad what

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 stocks should I pick? And so I immediately opened

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 up the Barron's journal and

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 I just looked at the stocks to pick now I said, hey, you

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 know, if you want to buy some technology, here's a bunch of Technology names. I said,

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 you know, the market has been involved, but if you want to buy stocks, here's a

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 couple of names that you can just

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Your portfolio. So of course he did that on my advice and

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 then about a year later. He

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 was blaming me because I'm the one that picked the stocks from in the

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 stocks were Downs.

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I just thought that was kind of interesting because it I did

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 exactly the opposite of what I should have said to him right in terms

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 of how we should be approaching these but you know, this was play

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 money for him. So I let him learn a little bit about what it

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 really means to invest in those types of questions of the wrong questions,

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 right as you just mentioned Peter and so I thought it was

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 a really good it was a it was a learning moment for him to understand that

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 you don't just pick stocks and they go up. Oh, absolutely and like

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 I I actually I do that with with clients. I'll

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 say to them.

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If you want to open up a small account and I

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 use the term your Casino money. Hey, you got to go to

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 the casino and sit there and maybe go out to dinner have a drink play the

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 slot sit at a table if you lose a hundred or 200

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 or $300.

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It was a night of entertainment you had a good time.

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I see take your Casino money and put it into an account and

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 buy a couple of stocks and just it's it's

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 good education for you. You might learn some valuable

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 lessons, but you're gonna pay really close attention. Even

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 if it's only five or 10 shares of a

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 company and you'll you'll learn a lot for it. So I think there is certainly a

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 value in that but with large sums of Money Retirement accounts

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 brokerage accounts. Absolutely not none of

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 this stock picking. It's got to be a low cost. Well Diversified portfolio.

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 So I'm hearing you say it's okay to sit in a

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 little bit.

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Any bit tiny bit? Absolutely. No, I didn't. You

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 know, I like to play the market myself, but I'm only doing

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 that with my my entertainment dollars not my

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 long-term assets that that my family

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 and I are going to need at some point in time. Right? So Peter

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 you've been talking a lot about planning right and and

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 I've been in this business for a long time as with you

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 you and I've worked together for many many years. I've noticed

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 the value proposition of financial advisor

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 has changed right at one point. It was that

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 stock picker many many years ago. So this

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 day and age what what do

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 you see as the value proposition to a financial advisor?

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In my opinion, it has to be the plan because that's

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 where we've had success as a firm. I've

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 had success as an advisor clients have had success

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 following that advice and and really

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 it's about the planning and that's the most

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 valuable advice. I give to my clients. Hey, we're with

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 a low cost. Well Diversified portfolio. We're going

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 to get a market return the market for us

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 taking risk. We will get a market return and my

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 return will be no different than my clients because we invest in very similar

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 similarly constructed portfolios, but

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 really

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Whether we get an 8% return 9% 10%

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 return long-term. It's really

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 the plan.

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That is is going to drive all that and just because

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 their portfolio is up a certain year that that's

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 great and they like to see that.

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But again, the plan is going to say well geez, I

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 know now I can retire at age 62. I'm

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 going to take Social Security at 67 when

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 I retire at 62.

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 of our services or you chose to go elsewhere, you

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 can do that. You're going to be able to take what you have here and

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 move that elsewhere. You're not going to be tied up for three or

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 hearing someone the first things I should look for and they should ask about it potentially

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 absolutely should and and interview multiple

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 with many of Tom's family members. Why because they come to Tom. Jeez

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 Tom. I've got some questions. Who should I work with? Well talk

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 you a fiduciary understand what that means and it's

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 you know online searches and things like that. So

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 you acting and a fiduciary capacity at all times, right?

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 the client what they're looking for. Right and

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 very high service level but whatever the client

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 all these different constituencies within your practice what we

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 tend to do the best because their clients are like-minded and

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 it keeps them in their seats even when markets are

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 to have less gap between What markets are doing and what

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 there. Sorry, but no. No, I just want to make sure our listeners get it to get

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 some really really good insight there Mike. So first

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 about advice, right and if someone wants to

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You have to have that place where your your view on

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 say is the study we've used many times the dial

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 bar study for our listeners. Could you talk a little bit about what that dial bar

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 research shows us sure is that it shows that the the investor

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Many time periods. I mean they updated every year but it goes

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 index and the question always is Peter and you know this why

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Behaviorally trying to in some

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 to advisors is to try to educate them and educate clients as

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 well that you know, we want to close that Gap we

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 call that the the performance Gap right?

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 There's a gap between what investments do and what the investor

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 does right? We know this plenty of Dad out

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 there to show that so how do we do that? Peter had talked about a little

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 we close that Gap? It comes from financial planning. It comes

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 from portfolio selection, not necessarily portfolio

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 management, but portfolio selection in terms

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 of picking the right model of the right strategy for for clients

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 education and communication with clients. I

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 think those are great ways that we see that behavioral Gap

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 closing through time and that and

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 ends up being a an experience

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 that clients will be with their advisors for a long time

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 because you focus on the things that matter not the investment

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a great computer

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You're the the man in the seat here. So talk

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 to us a little about that. Right? I mean that dial bar study is

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 pretty telling every year investors are underperforming.

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You focus on planning. How does planning help with the

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 long-term thinking that is required for

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 communication and the example I'll use and we were

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working from back home during the the pandemic and

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the markets dropped about a

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so about 33% in about a month's time thinking

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 the numbers are 33% over 34 days 1/3.

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And we're sitting here stuck at home. We think the world is going

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 to end and my message to my clients because

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 it's the message of our firm message that I truly believe.

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And it wasn't easy.

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No, we're not doing anything this too shall

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 pass.

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You know, this is the.com bubble. This

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 is 911. This is the

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 great financial crisis of 2008.

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It doesn't necessarily matter what the event

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 is because everyone know Peter is a pandemic. It's different like you're

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 right, but you're not it's the uncertainty and what

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 lo and behold what happens after the

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 market drops a third.

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In March February and to March it

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 shoots back up. It comes roaring back why we

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 had no vaccine. We still were unemployment had

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 all the you know, retail and entertainment losses

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 that that took place in in this country and around the

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 world. We still have this crazy election in front

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 of us. There was still uncertainty but why why did it happen and I

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 don't think there's necessarily an answer but the lesson learned

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 is we stay in our seats regardless of what's going on because

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 the markets have they've always come back and I

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 believe any time we hit something.

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They'll come back again. We just don't know when so that

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 you use the term staking in the stand or stake in the ground. That was my

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 stake in the ground. And now as we went through all of this in

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 2022 with all of the uncertainty and inflation and

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 gas prices and all of that impacting

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 the markets interest rates being increased.

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People said yeah, I remember what you said back during the

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 pandemic. So yeah, okay that that makes sense. It's the

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 messaging my messages consistent.

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And when people hear that, there's a sense of confidence like, you know what he was

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 right last time. He'll probably be right this time, too.

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Fantastic, and I remember that Panda right that

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 first quarter of 2020 was one of the top 10 worst

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 quarters in the United States history going back to 1926. The

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 second quarter of 2020 was one of the top 10

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 best quarters the United States ever experienced going

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 back. And and the funny thing is if we had

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 been if we had moved our money out of we did

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 not stay calm and we moved money out

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 of the market in March. What would

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 we have missed? When do we get back in? It's it's

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 difficult. It's difficult to sit there

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 when the market is dropping and say my gosh we have to do

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 something but you're also playing the same game when you get out. It's like

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 well if you get out, okay well, but then the market will eventually

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 come back. Well, when do you get back in?

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And and and we just see long-term what the

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 results are you're better off.

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Staying going dealing with the rollercoaster ride

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 staying in your seat versus making rash decisions based

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 upon fear and emotion Peter Michael. Thank you so much

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 for joining us here today that concludes part one of our discussion

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 on choosing the right financial advisor. I look

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 forward to continuing the conversation at part two, and if you want to

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 look at any of our previous unfiltered Finance podcasts, they're

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 available wherever you might be getting your podcast today. So,

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 thank you till next time bye-bye.

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