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The problem of evil is the most serious problem in the world. It is also the one serious objection to the existence of God. If God is all knowing and all powerful, what kind of God would allow bad things to happen to good people. Many of us coming into recovery have had terrible things happen to us and we blamed God for it. Now, as a newcomer, we find out that a relationship with a higher power is suggested, maybe even necessary, for a successful life in sobriety.

My current form of spirituality is that I experience my Higher Power in relationships. It is usually people who hurt me and I project these negative emotions and blame on God. I have also learned how to forgive God by forgiving people, including myself.

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So, that is the topic tonight. How do we deal with God when his will seems cruel.

When you were growing up, did you experience trauma?
Did you blame God?

When you came in, what was your relationship with higher power?
How did you develop your relationship with higher power?

Have you experienced tragedy/heartbreak since recovery?
Have you been angry with God since recovery?

How did you deal with that?

Let’s talk about forgiveness as a recovery tool.
When I have been hurt, I find that it is best for me to get to forgiveness as soon as possible. But this is a journey usually, because anger, shame, revenge, all these negative emotions have to be felt and moved through. But it has been my experience that Forgiveness is something I do for myself, not a favor I do to the other party.
Why is forgiveness something you do for yourself?
What has been your experience?

Forgiveness is not a matter of exonerating people who have hurt you. They may not deserve exoneration. Forgiveness means cleansing your soul of the bitterness of ‘what might have been,’ ‘what should have been,’ and ‘what didn’t have to happen.’
Have you ever tried to change the past?

Someone has defined forgiveness as ‘giving up all hope of having had a better past.

Service Work is another tool in dealing with tragedy.
The purpose in life is not to win. The purpose in life is to grow and to share.
How has service work giving you purpose in life?

Good people will do good things, lots of them, because they are good people. They will do bad things because they are human.
Why is it true that to err is to be human? Why should you be compassionate to someone who makes mistakes?

Gratitude can help when dealing with bad situations
If you concentrate on finding whatever is good in every situation, you will discover that your life will suddenly be filled with gratitude, a feeling that nurtures the soul.
Does gratitude help you in recovery?

The We part of the program is also helpful
One man alone can't defeat the forces of evil, but many good people coming together can.
What does this mean to you?

We have responsibility for our own happiness
God’s job is not to make sick people healthy. That’s the doctor’s job. God’s job is to make sick people brave.
What does this mean to you?

We Have Calls
Clyde from Shelby Twsp
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_DWz87cSjcModg1s0f_Fk5B9EvW_dOiU7g_yNDwex7epyvkuigMl2rHoN8uLFkocwotdvAuIqebrLkWisIEciOUN5ir4nYg5vpYHfVXKME0ulRKPYEqq5nO37pIhWLQl6gsxkCFDCHLmLUob77PPwCWMvHAdA

Rebecca
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Cristie from New York
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Buddy
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What would you say to the new guy?