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Mike Gitlin – The Century of Capital Group (EP.479)

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Release Date: 01/05/2026

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Kieran Goodwin is a Partner at Saba Capital, a $6 billion hedge fund manager that seeks to identify dislocations in credit and equity markets to generate convex returns in volatile times. Kieran has been one of the top credit traders on the Street for the last three decades across roles at investment banks in the ‘90s and early 00’s, King Street, his own hedge fund, Panning Capital, and most recently, Saba that he joined in 2024.  Our conversation covers a tour of Kieran’s background, including early experience with credit derivatives, growth at King Street, lifespan of...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Jeremy Grantham is the Co-Founder of GMO, a $100 billion Boston-based asset management firm co-founded in 1977. Over six decades in markets, Jeremy has been one of the most respected and outspoken voices on value, market bubbles, and long-term investing. He recently published The Making of a Permabear with Edward Chancellor, an account of his career and investment lessons learned along the way. Our conversation begins with Jeremy’s early lessons in frugality growing up in wartime Yorkshire and his interest in...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Throughout most of my career, the S&P 500 has been an appropriate bogey to assess manager performance. More than that, it’s the most widely used benchmark in the capital markets. But today, it doesn’t represent the broad-based, diversified exposure to the U.S. economy that most participants take for granted when investing passively or measuring manager skill. This WTT, When the Benchmark Becomes a Bet, considers the evidence, implications, and challenges posed by the current composition of the S&P 500. ...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ryan Lovell is the Director of Capital Markets at Chainlink Labs, where he leads the development of blockchain-based solutions for tokenized finance across banking and capital markets. Chainlink has powered more than $28 trillion in transaction value and powers the majority of decentralized finance. Our conversation explores the hidden plumbing of modern finance and the upgrade blockchains provide. We discuss Chainlink’s critical role in connecting traditional finance with blockchain technology, the rise of tokenization and stablecoins, institutional adoption,...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Katelin Holloway is a Founding Partner at Seven Seven Six, a technology-focused venture firm backing great early-stage entrepreneurs that she started with Alexis Ohanian in 2020. Alexis was a past guest on the show, and that conversation is replayed in the feed. Katelin and I explore the intersection of human capital and venture capital. We cover her upbringing, work alongside Steve Jobs at Pixar, and turnaround of Reddit with Alexis. We then turn to the application of her operational experience to venture investing....

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Alexis Ohanian is the General Partner and Founder of Seven Seven Six, an early-stage venture capital firm with $1 billion under management that he describes as a technology company that deploys venture capital. Alexis was the co-founder of Reddit, one of the most popular online forums in the world, which he sold 18 months after its 2005 launch for $10 million and returned as Executive Chair in 2014 to help lead the turnaround of the business. In between and since, he has invested in early-stage ventures as a partner at Y Combinator, a co-founder of Initialized Capital, and most recently...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Gavin Baker is the Managing Partner and Chief Investment Officer of Atreides Management, which oversees $7 billion across public, private, and crossover strategies focused on technology and the consumer. Gavin’s deep knowledge of semiconductors and AI may be second to none, but our conversation barely touches the space. We begin with Gavin’s upbringing, intellectual curiosity, and path to investing, before turning to the beliefs that shape his approach. We explore his view that investing is a search for truth best pursued...

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ed Grefenstette is the CIO of The Dietrich Foundation, which supports charitable organizations in Western Pennsylvania through a truly unique investment strategy that seeks to first, last, and always grow the assets. Bill Dietrich, a successful industrialist, published historian, international investor, and innovative philanthropist, formed the foundation after selling his business for $170 million in 1997. Since then, the pool has grown 11.5x to $1.5 billion after distributing $400 million to supported charities, including contributions that make it among the largest donors every year to...

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Today’s episode continues our ongoing mini-series covering organizations that have proven to be great training grounds of talent. There may be none larger and quieter than Capital Group, the $3.2 trillion global asset manager whose 650-person investment team and 9,400 associates have historically experienced a fraction of the turnover of industry norms.


My guest is Mike Gitlin, the CEO of Capital Group, known for its long-term philosophy, private ownership, and multi-manager investment system. Founded in 1931 by Johnathan Bell Lovelace, Capital Group is one of the industry's largest and most enduring active managers. Mike joined the firm as a lateral hire in 2015, after more than two decades across the buy side, sell side, hedge funds, and global markets.


Our exploration of Capital Group covers Mike’s path through the investment industry, Capital’s approach to recruiting and training talent, ownership model, client-centric focus, Capital System investment model, organization of a large, global team, and new product development. We close with Capital Group’s five-year strategic plan as it approaches the firm’s hundred-year anniversary in 2031.


I’ve been fascinated by Capital for most of my life, as it was the professional home for my uncle, the late Jim Rothenberg, for his entire 45 year career. It is a privilege for me to share this conversation with memories of Uncle Jim in mind.

 

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