Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry
Allocator and asset management expert, Ted Seides, conducts in-depth interviews with leaders in the institutional investing industry. Guests include Chief Investment Officers from leading allocators, asset managers, strategists, thought leaders, and many more. Our mission is to learn, share, and help implement the process of premier investors. Learn more and join our community at capitalallocators.com.
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AI in the Investment Office – Abby Barlow, Laura Hill, Brian Sugrue, Jenny Heller, John Lawrence, Matt Bank, Kristin Kallergis Rowland, Jon Webster (EP.515)
09/14/2026
AI in the Investment Office – Abby Barlow, Laura Hill, Brian Sugrue, Jenny Heller, John Lawrence, Matt Bank, Kristin Kallergis Rowland, Jon Webster (EP.515)
AI is top of mind for everyone in the investment business. Our Summits are abuzz with curiosity about what others are doing. I asked 8 CIOs to share how they’re using AI today, including what’s working and what isn’t, the tools they’ve adopted, and where they’re headed next. They range from a single-family office with one investment professional to one of the largest pension funds in the world with thousands. What emerged is a range of use cases — from using AI as a personal productivity tool, to changing investment workflows, organizing institutional knowledge, improving decisions, and ultimately trying to generate alpha. You’ll also hear some consistency in the tools currently used and different views on how far AI should go in the investment process. Featured in this interview: , CIO of Westwood Management , CIO of Advocate Health , CIO of Shannonbridge , President and CIO Brandywine Group Advisors , President of Rice Management Company , CIO of GEM , Global Head of Alternative Investments for J.P. Morgan Asset & Wealth Management , Senior Managing Director and COO of Technology & Operations at CPP Investments Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Habit Formation: James Clear
09/07/2026
Best of Habit Formation: James Clear
This week’s Summer Series concludes with a two-fer on habits. There may be no better way to improve the investment process than to understand what it takes to improve ourselves. We’ve got two of the best – James Clear and Katy Milkman, experts and authors of wildly bestselling books Atomic Habits and How to Change. Please enjoy my conversations with James Clear and Katy Milkman, both from 2021. We hope you’ve enjoyed this summer exploration in improving the investment process with some of the best conversations over the last nine years. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Habit Formation: Katy Milkman
09/07/2026
Best of Habit Formation: Katy Milkman
This week’s Summer Series concludes with a two-fer on habits. There may be no better way to improve the investment process than to understand what it takes to improve ourselves. We’ve got two of the best – James Clear and Katy Milkman, experts and authors of wildly bestselling books Atomic Habits and How to Change. Please enjoy my conversations with James Clear and Katy Milkman, both from 2021. We hope you’ve enjoyed this summer exploration in improving the investment process with some of the best conversations over the last nine years. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Capital Allocators University Online
09/03/2026
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Capital Allocators University Online
We’re excited to share something we've been working on for a while: we're bringing Capital Allocators University online. For years, CAU has been an in-person, once-a-year cohort of 25 or 30 professionals, built around a set of disciplines that matter enormously for investors and investor relations professionals but rarely get taught explicitly. We put together a brief conversation to share more on what the course covers, who it's for, what we learned from the past five years, and why we decided to move it online. . We look forward to welcoming you as a member. Special thanks to our production partner, .
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Best of Negotiations: Chris Voss
08/31/2026
Best of Negotiations: Chris Voss
This week’s Summer Series is another two-fer, this time on negotiations. The first is with legendary former FBI-hostage negotiator Chris Voss, the author of Never Split the Difference and founder of the Black Swan group where he teaches tactical empathy in negotiations. The second is with Yale professor Daylian Cain, who opened my eyes to the importance of walking away. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Negotiations: Daylian Cain
08/31/2026
Best of Negotiations: Daylian Cain
This week’s Summer Series is another two-fer, this time on negotiations. The first is with legendary former FBI-hostage negotiator Chris Voss, the author of Never Split the Difference and founder of the Black Swan group where he teaches tactical empathy in negotiations. The second is with Yale professor Daylian Cain, who opened my eyes to the importance of walking away. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Storytelling: Matthew Dicks
08/24/2026
Best of Storytelling: Matthew Dicks
This week’s Summer Series is a two-fer on the essential skill of storytelling. Whether pitching an investment fund to a prospect, an idea to a portfolio manager or CIO, or a request of a family member, storytelling helps you get what you want. To help understand the art and science of storytelling, Matt Dicks – a retired middle school teacher and author of the best-seller Storyworthy, and Don Miller – creator of Storybrand, a business started with his book of the same name – describe how to improve your storytelling ability. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Storytelling: Donald Miller
08/24/2026
Best of Storytelling: Donald Miller
This week’s Summer Series is a two-fer on the essential skill of storytelling. Whether pitching an investment fund to a prospect, an idea to a portfolio manager or CIO, or a request of a family member, storytelling helps you get what you want. To help understand the art and science of storytelling, Matt Dicks – a retired middle school teacher and author of the best-seller Storyworthy, and Don Miller – creator of Storybrand, a business started with his book of the same name – describe how to improve your storytelling ability. Learn more about . Try by Admired Leadership. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Pre-Mortem Analysis: Gary Klein
08/17/2026
Best of Pre-Mortem Analysis: Gary Klein
This week’s Summer Series covers the pre-mortem analysis with its founder, Gary Klein. Gary discovered pre-mortems while working with fighter pilots and wrote a white paper applying the tool to investment analysis alongside Paul Johnson and Paul Sonkin. Please enjoy this discussion of the proper use of pre-mortem analysis with Gary, Paul, and Paul from 2019. Learn more about Capital Allocators University: https://www.capitalallocators.com/capital-allocators-university/ Try ALEX by Admired Leadership: Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Interviewing: Ted Seides
08/10/2026
Best of Interviewing: Ted Seides
This week’s Summer Series is a highly atypical episode, where I appear as the guest. Matt Breitfelder from Apollo asked to interview me about interviewing, something I learned far more from hosting the show the last nine years than I ever did while interviewing managers for 20. The conversation has been sufficiently popular that it made the Summer Series on investment process. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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WTT: The Anatomy of a Blow-Up
08/05/2026
WTT: The Anatomy of a Blow-Up
This What Ted's Thinking brings Situational Awareness to the underlying causes of hedge fund disasters. Read Ted’s blog Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Decision-Making: Annie Duke (2022)
08/03/2026
Best of Decision-Making: Annie Duke (2022)
Our Summer Series kickoff is with one of the all-time greats, Annie Duke. The former world-class poker player has become a noted academic and practitioner in the art of decision-making. Her best-seller Thinking in Bets is a one-of-a-kind set of tools and tips to try (emphasis on try) to get past our embedded behavioral biases. And her follow-up works How to Decide and Quit pull different threads in the decision-making process. Since writing Thinking in Bets, Annie has consulted several investment organizations to apply her insights to investing, including becoming a Special Partner focused on Decision Science at venture firm, First Round Capital. For the series, we’ve shared two of Annie’s most popular appearance on the show – coinciding with the launched of Thinking in Bets in 2018 and Quit in 2022. Please enjoy these great conversations with Annie Duke. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Best of Decision-Making: Annie Duke (2018)
08/03/2026
Best of Decision-Making: Annie Duke (2018)
Our Summer Series kickoff is with one of the all-time greats, Annie Duke. The former world-class poker player has become a noted academic and practitioner in the art of decision-making. Her best-seller Thinking in Bets is a one-of-a-kind set of tools and tips to try (emphasis on try) to get past our embedded behavioral biases. And her follow-up works How to Decide and Quit pull different threads in the decision-making process. Since writing Thinking in Bets, Annie has consulted several investment organizations to apply her insights to investing, including becoming a Special Partner focused on Decision Science at venture firm, First Round Capital. For the series, we’ve shared two of Annie’s most popular appearance on the show – coinciding with the launched of Thinking in Bets in 2018 and Quit in 2022. Please enjoy these great conversations with Annie Duke. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Building Durable Real Estate Portfolios at Morgan Stanley – Lauren Hochfelder (EP.514)
07/30/2026
Building Durable Real Estate Portfolios at Morgan Stanley – Lauren Hochfelder (EP.514)
Lauren Hochfelder is Head of Global Real Assets at Morgan Stanley, where she oversees a team of 300 investment professionals across 13 countries, managing $80 billion across real estate, infrastructure, equity and credit. Lauren joined Morgan Stanley as an investment banking analyst directly out of Yale 26 years ago and has spent her entire career at the firm, helping build one of the industry's leading platforms. Our conversation traces Lauren's journey from analyst to Global Head and the evolution of Morgan Stanley's real estate business before, during, and after the Global Financial Crisis. We cover the firm’s thematic approach to investing behind structural demand tailwinds, combination of global perspectives and on-the-ground teams, operational improvements to assets, portfolio construction, and themes across industrial real estate and infrastructure, senior housing, and net lease properties. We also touch on riskier areas of real estate and Lauren’s new role adding infrastructure to her real estate oversight. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Rebuilding the NYU Endowment – Michelle Knudsen (EP.513)
07/27/2026
Rebuilding the NYU Endowment – Michelle Knudsen (EP.513)
Michelle Knudsen is Chief Investment Officer of NYU, where she oversees the university's $8 billion endowment. Michelle joined NYU two years ago, after fourteen years as an allocator at Partners Capital and the Mellon Foundation, with a mandate to build a best-in-class endowment from a clean sheet of paper. Our conversation traces Michelle's lessons learned working at Goldman Sachs, a growing OCIO, and a foundation that shaped her investment philosophy and views on portfolio construction, risk management, and manager selection. We then turn to the transformation of NYU's investment office from the ground up across governance, portfolio strategy, investment process, and the team. Along the way, we discuss manager selection, emerging managers, venture capital, hedge funds, AI, stress tests, and what it takes to build an enduring investment organization. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn more about our Strategic Investments: Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
07/20/2026
Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
Our next guest on the Senior Decision Makers series is Luis Laboy, Director of Public Equity at the Hewlett Foundation, where he's spent the last decade running the public equity book alongside CIO Ana Marshall — a mentor and colleague he first met nearly thirty years ago. The foundation's assets stand at roughly $14 billion today. Luis spent fifteen years as a direct emerging markets investor at Everest Capital before crossing to the LP side, and our conversation digs into how he’s leveraged that experience as an allocator. We discuss how the cadence and depth of decision-making changed when he went from a high-turnover book at Everest to a handful of high-conviction relationships at Hewlett, how his time split between portfolio construction and manager selection has evolved over, and how his time marketing the fund shaped the way he interviews managers and thinks about turnover. Luis is incredibly insightful about how his early interests and upbringing have shone through across his career. He thinks and speaks in analogies, he's wildly entertaining, and — in short — he's just a genuinely good dude, and that comes through in spades in our conversation. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Roadmap for Private Credit from Australia – Frank Danieli of MA Financial Group (EP.511)
07/16/2026
Roadmap for Private Credit from Australia – Frank Danieli of MA Financial Group (EP.511)
Frank Danieli is Head of Global Credit Solutions at MA Financial Group, an ASX-listed alternative asset manager that oversees A$15 billion ($10 billion) across a broad range of private credit and lending strategies and A$179 billion ($125 billion) in a lending ecosystem platform. Frank began his career in restructurings, the self-described ‘dark side of credit’, and has used the lessons from special situations and distressed loans to build a performing credit platform across asset backed finance, direct asset lending and corporate private credit. Our conversation discusses what global investors can learn from the model of private credit in Australia. We explore the evolution of private credit in Australia and why it developed differently from the sponsor-backed lending market in the U.S., the regulatory shift that pushed lending off bank balance sheets, the role of Australia's pension system, and MA Financial’s strategy for building proprietary origination across the lending ecosystem. We then turn to MA Financial’s investment process, including the separation of investment selection from portfolio management, red teams, war games, and rigorous stress testing. Along the way, Frank shares why sourcing - not fundraising - will define long-term winners, why private credit requires diversified balance sheets, and why portfolio management and risk management are the largest sources of alpha in the asset class. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Economic Growth, Governance, and Capital Allocation – Dambisa Moyo (EP.510)
07/13/2026
Economic Growth, Governance, and Capital Allocation – Dambisa Moyo (EP.510)
Baroness Dambisa Moyo is a global economist, author, board member, and investor who sits at the intersection of public policy, corporate governance, and capital allocation. Dambisa serves in the U.K. House of Lords, sits on the boards of Chevron, Starbucks, Condé Nast, and Oxford University's investment committee, is Chair of the Economic Club of New York, and oversees Altered Trajectory alongside her husband, Jared Smith, the family office formed after his sale of Qualtrics in 2018. Our conversation traces Dambisa's journey from growing up in Zambia to becoming a leading voice on global economic development and governance. We discuss how her experiences across more than 80 countries and on the boards of four global companies shaped her judgment on economic growth, governance, and decision-making. We then turn to the application of those lessons at Altered Trajectory, including the evolution away from an endowment-style portfolio, balancing Dambisa's macro convictions with Jared's moonshot investing style, and positioning for long-term themes. Along the way, we discuss the challenge of investing through structural change while avoiding ideological thinking. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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WTT: 5.5 Lessons at 55.5
07/10/2026
WTT: 5.5 Lessons at 55.5
This WTT, 5.5 Lessons at 55.5 reflects on what five-and-a-half decades of investing, podcasting, and mistakes have taught me about people, markets, and myself. Read Ted’s blog . Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Moat Investing Nuances – Pat Dorsey (EP.509)
07/06/2026
Moat Investing Nuances – Pat Dorsey (EP.509)
Pat Dorsey is the Founder of Dorsey Asset Management, a $1.7 billion global public equity manager focused on companies with competitive advantages and long investment runways. Pat created Morningstar’s moat research framework and led its equity research efforts for a dozen years before launching his firm in 2014. Our conversation covers the nuances of investing in businesses with wide moats across quantitative analysis, switching costs, network effects, brands, management, alignment, capital allocation, and reinvestment runways. We then turn to Pat’s application of moat analysis to his investing, including concentration, global scope, position sizing, decision making, and lessons learned. Any leader should see for themselves the benefits of elite coaching. Try ALEX: . Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Senior Decision Makers: Nicholas Csicsko, Trinity Wall Street (EP.508)
06/29/2026
Senior Decision Makers: Nicholas Csicsko, Trinity Wall Street (EP.508)
Our first guest on the Senior Decision Makers mini-series is Nick Csicsko. Nick is a Managing Director at the Trinity Wall Street endowment, where he joined CIO Meredith Jenkins at the founding of the investment office in 2016 and has spent the last decade helping build a young endowment inside a 320-year-old institution. Today the endowment has grown to over $6 billion. Nick's path into investing is a fascinating one. He studied composition and earned his Doctorate of Music at Juilliard. While there, he talked his way into an internship at Juilliard’s endowment and never looked back. Our conversation covers the lessons he carried from music into investing, his investment philosophy, and the details of his process. Manager selection sits at the heart of his work, and he articulates what separates the relationships that endure from the ones that don't. Nick is a remarkable storyteller and shares a number of real-life examples of manager relationships — some that worked out well, some that didn't, and others with insights for allocators and managers alike. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Homegrown CIO at Williams College - Abigail Wattley (EP.507)
06/22/2026
Homegrown CIO at Williams College - Abigail Wattley (EP.507)
Abigail Wattley is the Chief Investment Officer of Williams College, where she oversees the school’s $4.5 billion endowment. She became CIO three years ago upon the retirement of Collette Chilton, whose past conversation is replayed in the feed. Abigail has spent two decades in the Williams investment office, and her tenure manifests the benefits of duration and institutional knowledge in the seat. Our conversation traces Abigail's nearly twenty-year journey inside the Williams Investment Office, from joining as an early analyst to becoming the internal successor CIO. We discuss the consistent mandate throughout alongside Abigail’s evolution from analyst to deputy to decision-maker, including the knowledge retained as an internal candidate, the tension between respecting an institution's history and putting her own stamp on the portfolio, and perspectives on hedge funds, private markets, liquidity management, real assets, team development, and AI. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant () Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with
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[REPLAY] Collette Chilton – Humility and Loyalty at Williams College (EP.174)
06/22/2026
[REPLAY] Collette Chilton – Humility and Loyalty at Williams College (EP.174)
Collette Chilton is the CIO of Williams College where she has overseen its $3 billion since 2006. Collette is nothing short of a legend in the business. She has sat in a CIO seat since the early 1990s at the helm of public pension MassPrim and corporate pension Lucent before joining Williams. Institutional Investors bestowed its Lifetime Achievement Award on Collette in 2019, and Barron’s named her one of the 100 Most Influential Women in Finance in 2020. Our conversation covers Collette’s career path and lessons learned before joining Williams. We then turn to her arrival at Williams in 2006 to a phone, a computer, and a legacy portfolio, Williams’ governance structure leveraging alumni advisors, asset allocation, manager selection, manager monitoring, hedge funds, venture capital, and navigating around popular managers. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant () Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with
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WTT: AI: Fundamentals, Valuation, and the Next Allocator Dilemma
06/17/2026
WTT: AI: Fundamentals, Valuation, and the Next Allocator Dilemma
This WTT, AI: Fundamentals, Valuation, and the Next Allocator Dilemma takes on a high-level assessment of AI companies as late-stage private winners prepare to go public, and the next big challenge allocators face as a result. Read Ted’s blog . Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Hotel Investing at EOS – Jonathan Wang (EP.506)
06/15/2026
Hotel Investing at EOS – Jonathan Wang (EP.506)
Jonathan Wang is the founder and CEO of EOS Investors, where he has built three real estate investment platforms totaling $2 billion in assets under management across the hotel and residential sectors. Jonathan also created a wholly owned hotel management company that oversees 60 properties for the EOS funds and five core partners. Our conversation covers Jonathan’s path to hotel investing and EOS’ hotel investment process across market selection, property type, underwriting, vertically integrated operations, and managing through cycles. We also discuss extensions into residential real estate, hotel credit, and opportunities and risks going forward. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant () Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with
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Contrarian Quality at GQG Partners – Rajiv Jain (EP.505)
06/08/2026
Contrarian Quality at GQG Partners – Rajiv Jain (EP.505)
Rajiv Jain is the Chairman and CIO of GQG Partners, a global equity manager he founded in 2016 that has soared to $160 billion in assets, rebuffing the challenging decade for active managers. Our conversation covers Rajiv’s path from trading in India to his long tenure at Vontobel and founding of GQG. We discuss the periodic crisis lessons that shaped his approach, his definition of quality, team dynamics, and portfolio construction to avoid losses. We then turn to Rajiv’s contrarian views, including current significant positions in energy, utilities, steel, tobacco, and emerging markets, avoidance of hyperscalers and semiconductors, and nimbleness to change his mind. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with
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Operator-Led Private Equity at Ethos - Erik Brooks (EP.504)
06/01/2026
Operator-Led Private Equity at Ethos - Erik Brooks (EP.504)
Erik Brooks is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Ethos Capital, a middle-market private equity firm built to bring seasoned C-Suite operators into every aspect of the investment process. Erik’s experience prior to founding Ethos in 2019 spanned privatizations in Eastern Europe, value investing at Baupost, and twenty years at Abry Partners. Our conversation covers Erik’s path to private equity, lessons learned about risk, the importance of betting on people, and the evolution in his thinking that led to forming Ethos. We then cover Ethos’ focus on durable business models, one-deal-a-year cadence, operating system to evaluate and improve companies, and an investment example that brings it all to life. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Fundraising Mastery: The Tao of Kimmer – John Kim (EP.503)
05/25/2026
Fundraising Mastery: The Tao of Kimmer – John Kim (EP.503)
John Kim, or Kimmer, has raised more than $70 billion across his career for leading venture capital and private equity firms. Kimmer recently distilled three decades of lessons into The Tao of Fundraising, the best book I’ve ever read on fundraising for investment managers. Since then, Kimmer joined a General Catalyst portfolio company, Lila Sciences, as Chairman and President of Corporate Development. Our conversation covers Kimmer’s philosophy about raising capital, the sales process, art of persuasion, best practices in a meeting, frameworks determining fundraising success, taxonomy of institutional investors, ideal sales team structure and compensation, and the features he carried over from capital formation for funds to a new operating role. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Making Mistakes – Josh Steiner (EP.502)
05/18/2026
Making Mistakes – Josh Steiner (EP.502)
Josh Steiner is a polymath of the New York and D.C. power corridors across government, media, and finance, and co-author of From Mistakes to Meaning: Owning Your Past So It Doesn’t Own You. Josh rose to national prominence as the youngest-ever Chief of Staff at the U.S. Treasury in the Clinton administration, where he made a high-profile mistake he unpacks in the book. He pivoted to finance as a media investment banker and co-founder of private equity firm Quadrangle Group in 2000, worked as an operator at Bloomberg in the 2010s, has served on Yale’s Investment Committee for nearly a decade, and five years ago returned to private equity as co-founder of SSW Partners managing capital for a few families. Our conversation focuses on mistakes, quite a contrast from other discussions on the podcast. We kick it off with Josh’s big mistake at Treasury and analyze the nature of mistakes and what happened to Josh. We then turn to his mistakes in investing across deals, managing an investment business, managing people, and serving on Investment Committees. We close with frameworks to avoid mistakes and with Josh turning the table on me to discuss an impactful mistake I made that I’ve never discussed before. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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Will England, Derek Drummond, and Tony Caruso – Disintermediating Pod Shops (EP.501)
05/11/2026
Will England, Derek Drummond, and Tony Caruso – Disintermediating Pod Shops (EP.501)
Today’s show discusses an innovative joint venture between asset owners and a multi-manager hedge fund that seeks to deliver smooth, equity-like returns at a lower cost than available in the marketplace. My guests are Will England, Derek Drummond, and Tony Caruso. Will is the CEO and CIO of $12 billion multi-strategy hedge fund Walleye Capital. Derek is head of external public markets investing at the State of Wisconsin Investment Board, and Tony Caruso is Managing Director of hedge funds at UTIMCO. Together, they co-founded Dockside Platforms, a managed account platform that gives institutional allocators direct access to portfolio managers using the infrastructure, risk systems, and financing capabilities of a multi-strat underneath. Our conversation traces Dockside’s evolution from a barstool brainstorm to a platform with more than 60 managers and billions in assets. We discuss the accessibility of talent through managed accounts, differentiated manager sourcing, due diligence with trade-level transparency, capital efficiency across portfolios, hedging, risk management, and onboarding and exiting managers on the platform. All told, the combined heft of large asset owner capital and the sophisticated infrastructure of a multi-manager hedge fund have created a win-win for everyone involved. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at or Subscribe to the Access Transcript with Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant ()
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