Test. Optimize. Scale. Episode 221- John Andrade: Why Most Entrepreneurs Never Make It.
Release Date: 12/13/2025
EP. 243: Hunter Harris - The 30-Minute Fix Most Engineering Teams Overlook
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A 30-minute fix increased one company's revenue by $25M ARR. Hunter Harris has exited four companies and now helps Series A B2B SaaS startups fix the system problems slowing their engineering teams down. Hunter led product engineering at Silverpop, IBM, SalesLoft, Calendly, and Sendoso before founding Hunter Software Consulting. In this episode, he shares the through line of his entire career: most teams do not have a talent problem, they have a system problem and a strategy problem. He walks through the small changes that create disproportionate business impact, and how AI, done right, is...
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EP. 242: Itay Golan - The Next Era of Investment Banking Is Agentic
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Itay Golan is the CEO of Deals Agent and a former bank executive with 15 years of experience across the deal lifecycle at firms such as DealLogic, S&P Capital IQ, and Bloomberg. In his second appearance on Test. Optimize. Scale: Itay breaks down how agentic AI is leveling the playing field in capital markets, allowing small banks and funds to compete with the bulge bracket for deal origination. This is a deep look at how AI is moving from a novelty layer atop financial data to a mission-critical, revenue-generating tool that tells bankers where their next deal will come from. What We...
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EP. 241:Jeff Borschowa - Cloning Your Top Clients Creates a Powerful Referral Network
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Most founders chase cold leads while their strongest growth channel sits untouched, the clients they already love. Referral expert Jeff Borschowa shows how to turn your top clients into a referral network that brings you more of the same. On this episode of Test. Optimize. Scale., Jeff Borschowa joins host Jason Fishman, CEO of Digital Niche Agency (DNA), to break down how real referral partnerships get built. Jeff grew his professional services firm by doubling it three years in a row with no ad spend, all from a handful of strong referral relationships. He shares how to find the right...
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EP. 240: Hiten Sonpal - The Playbook Behind the #1 Reg CF Campaign of 2025
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Hiten Sonpal is the CEO of RISE Robotics and a robotics industry veteran with over 20 years of experience. He helped generate $2B in revenue and ship 9M units at iRobot, and now leads the company behind the Beltdraulic system, a patented fluid-free alternative to traditional hydraulics that operates at 75% efficiency versus hydraulics' 25%. In this episode, Hiten covers the technology, the commercialization strategy, the defense contracts, and the crowdfunding playbook that made RISE Robotics the #1 Regulation Crowdfunding campaign of 2025 according to KingsCrowd. What We Cover: - How robots...
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EP. 239: Jeff Coleman - How One Messaging Change Lifted Conversion Rates by 7%
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-Jeff Coleman has been running Google Ads campaigns since 2004, back when clicks cost 25 cents and keywords were king. In this episode, Jeff breaks down exactly how search advertising has changed, what most campaigns are getting wrong right now, and the proven approach his team uses to build consistent lead engines for service businesses. If you are spending money on Google Ads or thinking about it, this one will save you a lot of wasted budget. What We Cover: - Why persona research matters more than keyword research before you ever launch - How to use AI to pull out what your existing...
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EP. 238: Jack Hoss - How Real Estate Investors Are Using AI to Flip Houses
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Jack Hoss is the owner of RealDealCrew and host of the RealDealCast podcast, with over 850 episodes recorded. In this episode, Jack breaks down how he flips houses in the Fargo/Moorhead market, how he uses AI to underwrite multifamily deals, and the local SEO strategy that keeps his business visible and competitive online. If you're a real estate investor, operator, or entrepreneur looking to put AI to work in your business, this one is packed with practical takeaways you can use right now. What We Cover: - Jack's house flipping approach in Fargo/Moorhead targeting 250-300k ARV properties -...
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EP. 237: Kevin Cahill - Daily Actions to Grow Your Real Estate Business
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Most real estate agents are grinding for now buyers and now sellers. The agents who actually build wealth are doing something completely different every single day. Kevin Cahill has been a managing broker since 1999, recruited and trained thousands of agents across multiple states, co-founded REALean Real Estate (saving sellers over $4 million in commissions), merged into eXp Realty, and built Realty Funnels, a SaaS marketing and automation platform designed to help agents attract sellers and scale with intelligent systems. In this episode: The 6-12-18-6 daily action framework every agent (and...
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EP. 236: Tom Ruwitch - Why Your Marketing Repels Prospects Instead of Attracting Them
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Most marketing fails not because of the platform, the budget, or the targeting. It fails because the story is feeble. Tom Ruwitch is the founder of Story Power Marketing and Implementum. He co-founded Sports Huddle in the late 90s, growing it from 2 to 85 people in 18 months and raising $5.5M in venture capital before exiting. He then founded MarketVolt, an email marketing software and agency he ran for 19 years before selling in 2019. Today he helps businesses build story-powered content that attracts, engages, and converts. In this episode: Why most marketing repels prospects instead of...
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How to Earn the Exit You Want | Ep. #235 with Nick Avaria | Test. Optimize. Scale.
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90% of agencies never sell, and most owners who do sell hate the price they get. This episode breaks down the boring work that separates the rare agencies that actually exit well from the ones that underperform. Our guest Nick Avaria is the founder of Agency Acquisitions out of Vancouver, Canada. His goal is to help reward people in agencies for their hard work, whether they're agency owners or employees. He developed "The Agency Economics Thesis" that has scaled multitudes of successful companies. www.agencyacquisitions.io | LinkedIn: / nickavaria What you'll learn: →Why...
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EP #234- August Biniaz: Why the Inferior Product with Better Marketing Always Wins
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Most people think the best product wins. August Biniaz disagrees, and he's built a multi-million dollar real estate private equity firm to prove it. August is the Chief Investment Officer and co-founder of CPI Capital, a real estate private equity firm with two verticals: multifamily value add (Tampa Bay, San Antonio, Austin) and build-to-rent development. In this episode, he breaks down the returns (15–20% multifamily vs. 25–30% BTR), the investor psychology behind raising equity, and the exact marketing systems that helped CPI scale from zero to a cross-border investment platform serving...
info_outlineIn this episode, host Jason Fishman sits down with John Andrade, entrepreneur, author, and founder of GO4CEO, to reveal the hard truths behind why so many businesses struggle to reach their potential.
With over 25 years of experience leading management, sales, and strategy for organizations and his own ventures, John shares real-world lessons from building businesses with top-line revenues over $3.5 million and working in high-level roles within banking and financial services. He has seen the pitfalls that trip up even the most ambitious founders, and he is here to help you avoid them.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
- The most common mistakes that keep entrepreneurs from breaking the $1M barrier
- Why mindset and team-building are the true multipliers for growth
- The difference between working in your business and working on your business
- How to leverage mentors, align with the right people, and avoid the "stranglehold" that limits so many founders
- Insider secrets from banking and financial services that can fast-track your business
John’s mission with GO4CEO is to share the strategies, skills, and stories that help entrepreneurs and business owners achieve their goals without falling into the traps he has seen all too often.
Whether you are just starting out or looking to scale, this episode is packed with actionable advice and honest insights you will not hear anywhere else.
About John Andrade:
With over 25 years of spearheading management, sales, and strategy for organizations and entrepreneurial endeavors, John started GO4CEO to share all that he has learned from his experience and help entrepreneurs and business owners avoid the mistakes he sees all too often in the business world. Having owned businesses with top-line revenues of over $3.5 million and held management positions within banking and financial services, John knows the inside secrets that can fast-track your growth.
👉 Learn more: https://www.go4ceo.com/
🔗 Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnandrade/