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The Bitcoin Game #74: David Jevans of CipherTrace

The Bitcoin Game

Release Date: 02/01/2020

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Welcome to episode 74 of The Bitcoin Game, sponsored by eToro. The Bitcoin Game has been a featured podcast on the LTB Network since 2014!

A few facts about David Jevans: In the late '90s, David attended monthly Cypherpunk meetups in Palo Alto. David hired Nick Szabo to help with IronKey (David's previous business, a secure USB product). And David is currently the founder and CEO of CipherTrace, one of the big three "blockchain analysis" companies.

David's past and present positions give him a uniquely informed perspective, and I was fascinated to hear his takes. We discuss a wide range of topics, from details about CipherTrace's work, to hardware wallets, supply-chain security, CryptoCapital, Quadriga, BTC-E, CoinJoin, OPSEC, and tons more.


EPISODE LINKS

CipherTrace
https://ciphertrace.com

David on Twitter
https://twitter.com/davejevans

Cypherpunk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk

Nick Szabo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo

IronKey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronKey

ECC (Elliptic Curve Cryptography)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography

2000 Financial Cryptography Conference
https://ifca.ai/fc00/program.html

David Chaum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum

DigiCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash

Mt. Gox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox

CoinJoin
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CoinJoin

Wasabi Wallet
https://wasabiwallet.io

OPSEC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_security

Financial Action Task Force (FATF)'s "Travel Rule"
https://ciphertrace.com/fatf-crypto-travel-rule


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As Seen On
The Guardian • TechCrunch • Engadget • Ars Technica • Popular Mechanics
Infowars • Maxim • Inc. • Vice • RT • Bitcoin Magazine • VentureBeat
PRI • CoinDesk • Washington Post • Forbes • Fast Company

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CREDITS

All music in this episode was created by me, or is from a jam with me, Mike Coleman and Steve Lunn.

The Bitcoin Game box art was created from an illustration by Rock Barcellos.

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