The Courageous Pastors Podcast
Shawn catches up with old friend Jeff Kapusta, Senior Pastor of Lifepoint Church in Wilmington, N.C. They talk church planting, leadership, and the upcoming Courageous Pastors Gathering being hosted at Lifepoint this February 2024.
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Join Greg and Shawn at The Courageous Pastors Gathering 2024 this February! To register: visit Use promo code "PODCAST" for a special rate! In this episode, Shawn is joined by Greg Surratt, founding Pastor of Seacoast Church and co-founder of ARC (Association of Related Churches). Shawn and Greg discuss Greg's journey in ministry and his new book, "The Endurance Factor," which emphasizes the importance of maintaining well-being and finishing strong in ministry. --------------------------
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In this episode, Shawn welcomes his friend Rodney Gage, Pastor, author, and co-founder of Rethink Life Church, to discuss the heart behind his bestselling book, "The Double Win: How to Win at Work and at Home." Rodney emphasizes the common struggle of work-life balance and challenges the cultural myth that success requires sacrificing one aspect of life for another. They delve into the importance of vision, values, and humility in building trust and fostering togetherness within families. Discover practical insights for achieving the double win in both your career and personal life. ---- ...
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In this episode, Shawn Lovejoy sits down with Harold Melton, former Chief Justice of the Georgia Supreme Court. Having spent years working within the court system, Harold brings a unique perspective on the concept of justice, and defines it in three simple words: "the right response." He emphasizes the importance of personal involvement and mentorship in healing unhealed trauma, shedding light on the practical steps we can all take to contribute to positive change. Register for - Use code "PODCAST" for a discount exclusive to our podcast listeners!
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Did you know, in the next decade, that most people will be holding their wealth in non-cash assets instead of their checking & savings accounts? This shift is crucial for the local church to understand, especially when it comes to giving encouragement. As times change, we must adapt our approach to align with the evolving financial realities of our congregation. Vance Roush is the Founder/CEO of Overflow, whose mission is to inspire your church with a faster, simpler and more accessible way to give. He dives into the changing landscape of wealth and its impact on the local church.
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This week Shawn steps back to the mic to interview one of his first coaching clients ever, Chris Bell. Shawn and Chris talk about growing in healthy ways. Growth doesn’t always equal health. Bad things, like weeds, can grow quickly. Rather than focusing just on the growth, we need to look at the soil — the culture. Every church and organization already has a culture. This leads us to questions such as: * Is the culture we have a culture we actually want? * Have we created this culture, or did it just “happen” by accident? * Are there things in our culture we need to...
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In this episode, JC interviews his very best friend (and his wife’s bestie, as well), Jeremy and Corrie Isaacs. Jeremy and Corrie share a unique burden to minister marriages. They come from two different backgrounds. Jeremy’s parents had a solid marriage, but he never saw them “live out” the conflict— nor was he taught how to manage it. Corrie was raised by a single mom— with no marriage example to follow (her mother was married four times). However, she saw incredible marriages before her at church… and realized Jesus could restore everything. The two of them believe that God...
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Kyle Jackson brings a unique perspective to the Courageous Pastors Podcast. Usually, with speak senior leaders, but Kyle brings his experience as a campus pastor and let us know things like: How to support the vision of the leader you’re following, as well as How to lead well when you’re not in charge He’s actually be on staff with his wife, too, for 13 of the 15 years he’s been in ministry. His wife is a worship leader where he serves. Kyle is the son of an evangelist. He walked away from church from 18-25, but reconnected when he attended a mobile church— in a high...
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In this episode, Kevin and JC discuss Kevin’s journey from “his call” to pastoring to serving as an executive pastor— and how he knew he didn’t want to be the “lead guy” at the church but wanted to serve as the XP. It’s a good word. Most staff members are not going to serve as the senior pastor. Most will be the number 2, number 3, or something else. Kevin and JC talk about several important factors: ⭐️ the importance of execution— of getting things done. Specifically, the discuss vision and trust, and identify how to know when you move forward without...
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In this talk we divide the content from the past 23 talks into 7 “buckets,” that is, 7 repeating themes we saw. #1 = Be you (not a knock-off of some other leader). #2 = Take care of you. You can’t pour from an empty cup, serve from dry well, run on an empty tank… you get the idea. #3 = Race relations are tough— and are worth the work. And they’re tough. And they’re worth the work. And tough. And worth it. And they are part of bringing the presence of the Kingdom. #4 = The pandemic happened. Regardless of where you stand politically or medically or on any other issue, culture...
info_outlineJeff stepped into the interim role, then became the lead pastor.
Today, he leads the same church— now a multi-site congregation, spanning 6 physical locations, in the PIttsburgh area.
During this season he enjoys looking back and serving young leaders, pastors who stand in the position he found himself three decades ago. More so, he especially likes serving young leaders who want to plant a church.
In this episode Jeff mentions “the good ol’ days.”
It’s easy to look back and live nostalgically. But that’s not what he refers to at all. He doesn’t suggest we should just look back in order to complain about the present, either.
Rather, looking back is a way to remind us of God’s goodness, His faithfulness…
Recently, Jeff rode through a nearby area with the leader of one of their first church plants outside the Pittsburgh area.
“We drove through the streets,” he said, “and I remembered our drive years before— when the church didn’t exist, when it was just an idea, a dream…”
He adds, “As I sat on the front row of that church, celebrating that first decade, I was moved to tears. None of this was here just years before.”
(We can also learn lesson when we glance in the rear view mirror. People say that experience is a great teacher, but mere experience isn’t. EVALUATED experience, on the other hand, truly is.)
“Looking back,” Jeff says, “offers the opportunity to celebrate the faithfulness you can easily forget.”
Many pastors faced a “crisis of faith” coming through the pandemic.
(Some are still feeling it, in fact.)
Jeff refers this to “pruning in the pandemic.” And, he reminds us that “God’s pruning is always for our good AND for future fruit” (see John 15:1f.). “Even when it comes in odd ways,” he adds. “Even then we can look back and see his past faithfulness…”
What does this pruning include?
Jeff refers to something MANY of the guest on the podcast have referenced: “We’ve been measuring the wrong things.” Or— “We’ve measured the right things in the wrong ways…”
Jeff endeavors to transform his church into a “Barnabas house,” that is, a place of encouragement— sacred space which launches people into their calling.
Barnabas is the Apostle who sold a plot of land and gave the proceeds to the early church. He’s the leader who stood by Paul, effectively endorsing him when everyone else was still nervous about his recent conversion. He’s the sage who believed in Mark, also, even though he’d bailed on Paul and Barnabas amidst their first mission venture.
You know the outputs of these actions…
- The church had resources to feed the widows and expand its footprint.
- Paul led mission trips, planted churches, and penned the letters which became the Scriptures we often read.
- Mark wrote what many believe to be the first Gospel.
At each beginning of each of these stories stands that character Barnabas, the one who breathed life into people and pushed them— in a healthy way— towards their call.
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