What We Look For When Hiring Teachers at Sunlight | Season 3 Episode 8
Release Date: 05/05/2025
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We discuss:
👥 The importance of building real relationships with youth
📚 What sets a great teacher apart from a good one
💬 How teaching can become a powerful tool for discipleship
❤️ Why connection matters more than content Whether you're a pastor, mentor, or youth leader, this conversation will challenge and inspire you to lead with purpose, presence, and passion.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – The Heart of Teaching and Ministry
00:37 – Podcast Introduction & Guest Introductions
01:39 – Jary Reed’s Surprise Reputation 02:35 – Jary’s Journey to Sunlight
03:29 – First Impressions & Church Conversations
04:07 – Getting to Know Jary
04:30 – The Emotional Rollercoaster of Ministry
06:31 – Being Real vs. Becoming a Persona
07:50 – Jerry on Authenticity and Ministry
08:14 – The “Professional” Pastor Worldview
09:06 – Preaching from a Place of Brokenness
10:08 – Intentional Vulnerability & Missionary Kid Stories
10:54 – Leaving the Pastor Persona Behind
11:20 – Teaching Teens with Honesty
12:07 – Making Space for Real Conversations with Youth
13:00 – Jary’s Forced Exit from Ministry
13:32 – Losing a Job, Gaining a Mission
14:22 – Staying Put for the Kids
14:59 – A Teaching Opportunity Opens Up
15:20 – How Teaching Teens Trains You for Adults
21:02 – Importance of Fun and Belief in Teaching
21:17 – Vulnerability and Entering Students’ Lives
21:55 – Teaching as a Calling, Not a Job
22:18 – The Weight of Knowing Students' Stories
22:56 – Lifelong Impact and Relationships
23:21 – Staying Connected Beyond Graduation
23:43 – Weddings, Funerals, and Life Milestones
24:11 – Seeing Students as Disciples
24:35 – Time Spent with Students vs. Parents
25:07 – Teachers as Surrogate Parental Figures
25:41 – Changing Family Dynamics and Influence
26:22 – The Teacher’s Role in Culture and Discipleship
26:47 – Two Powers: Gospel and Relationship
27:19 – Misconceptions of the Gospel
27:51 – Personal Need for Grace
28:12 – Power of Real Friendships and Care
29:08 – “You Before Me” Mentality
29:40 – Bible Teaching as a Vehicle for Care
30:03 – Why Former Students Return
30:31 – Gospel in Every Class
30:49 – Students Recognizing Teacher Vulnerability
31:38 – Kids Perceive What You Feel
31:54 – Students Need Jesus, Not Religion
32:18 – Students’ Honesty and Transparency
32:52 – Balancing Curriculum and Relationship
33:19 – Grades Don’t Define Bible Class
33:39 – Cheating in Bible Class
33:58 – Humor and Nicknames from Mistakes
34:44 – Grading Through Essays and Honesty
35:38 – Senior Final: Personal Worldview Paper
35:52 – Administrative Support for Open Dialogue
36:10 – Students Skipping Classes for Bible
36:26 – Easy A’s with Honest Effort
36:59 – Freedom to Doubt and Converse
37:27 – Senior Privilege vs. Underclassman Rigor
41:10 – Teaching Is More Than Information
41:39 – The Role of Understanding in Teaching
42:01 – Motivations in Teaching
42:27 – Skills and Growth in Any Profession
42:48 – Bible Literacy and Early Content Learning
43:12 – Memorization and Foundational Knowledge
43:51 – Moving Beyond Moral Lessons
44:08 – Connecting Gospel to the Whole Bible
44:22 – Classical Education and Reasoning
44:44 – Discipleship Goals for Youth
45:27 – Evaluating Bible Literacy in Youth
46:15 – Engaging Students with Questions
46:56 – Exploring Context in Scripture
47:41 – Student Engagement and Curiosity
48:12 – Comparing Public and Private School Knowledge
48:27 – Teaching with Questions and Discovery
49:13 – Teachers’ Role in Shaping Culture
49:35 – Supportive School Culture and Freedom
49:54 – Dress Code and Personal Expression
50:44 – Unique Classroom Environment
51:47 – Most Impactful Teachers
52:33 – A Teacher Who Built Relationships
53:32 – Demanding but Caring College Professor
55:04 – Traits of Impactful Teachers
55:38 – College Greek Teacher and Mentorship
56:22 – Learning Grace from a Pastor
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