Are You Truly Self-Aware—or Just Self-Deceived? | Season 3 Episode 10
Release Date: 05/17/2025
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In Episode 10 of The Disciple Standard Podcast, Pastor Aaron, Pastor Zach, and Seron dive deep into the topic of identity and what it means to truly know yourself.
They ask big questions like:
👀 What’s something you once believed about yourself that wasn’t actually true?
🤯 Is our culture becoming more self-aware—or more self-deceived?
👥 How do your true needs and stress responses affect your closest relationships?
🙌 And how can tools like the Birkman test help you better understand who God made you to be?
This episode is raw, relatable, and packed with insights that might challenge how you view yourself and your faith walk. Because the truth is—you can’t grow spiritually without knowing who you really are.
00:00 – Welcome & Introductions
00:57 – Gorilla vs. 100 Men Debate Begins
02:20 – Hypothetical Fight Logistics
03:25 – Environment and Fear Factor
05:01 – Fighting a Gorilla at the Church
05:57 – Transition to Topic: Identity
07:02 – Self-Limiting Beliefs
07:32 – Brutal Honesty as a Flawed Belief
08:41 – Realizing the Impact of Brutal Honesty
09:51 – Leadership and Communication Shift
10:38 – Stress Responses & Behavioral Patterns
12:09 – Behavioral Assessment Breakdown
13:32 – Vision Ownership and Group Dynamics
14:32 – Sharing Personality Assessments in Relationships
15:07 – Practicality vs. Emotion in Communication
21:46 – Culture Shift Toward Emotional Awareness
22:16 – Self-Awareness vs. Self-Deception: Personal Ratings
23:06 – The Impact of the Birkman Assessment
24:05 – Pre-Birkman Mindset: "This Is Just Who I Am"
25:00 – Self-Deception and Doubling Down on Beliefs
25:53 – Affirmation, Identity, and the Turning Point
26:52 – Considering the Impact on Others
27:34 – Perception vs. Reality: The “Terrifying” Teddy Bear
28:23 – Who Are We Under Stress?
29:11 – Stress as a Degradation of Our Best Selves
30:20 – Stress Behavior Explained Through Needs
31:29 – Our True Self: The Role of Needs
32:09 – Do Needs Lessen as We Mature in Christ?
33:38 – Viktor Frankl, Suffering, and Joy in Christ
34:38 – Needs Met in Christ, Not Circumstances
35:12 – Misplaced Expectations in Relationships and Teams
35:55 – The Leader’s Role: Meeting the Needs of the Team
36:09 – Applying This to Marriage: Belonging and Affection
40:53 – Social Needs vs. Social Norms
41:27 – Being Frank and Forthright
42:13 – The West Michigan Ramble
42:35 – Cutting Through Small Talk
43:06 – Cultural Communication Styles
44:44 – Person-Focused vs. Issue-Focused Feedback
45:21 – Directness vs. Tactfulness in Ministry
46:46 – Cultural Definitions of Directness
47:49 – Birkman Score Extremes
48:36 – Misread Needs and Bottled Emotions
49:43 – The Desire for Respect 50:40 – Feeling Respected vs. Feeling Dismissed
51:34 – The Impact of Key Relationships
52:31 – Scoffs, Dismissiveness, and Vulnerability
53:42 – Recognizing Deep Emotional Triggers
54:19 – Understanding Others’ Communication Styles
54:46 – The Need for Genuine Praise
1:00:04 - Self-Perception and Social Perception
1:00:52 - Birkman Interests Overview
1:01:30 - Birkman Scores on Patreon
1:01:48 - Seron's Motivation and Interests
1:02:12 - Clash Between Interest and Actions
1:02:35 - Siron Explains Outdoor Interests
1:03:14 - Trinity’s Low Artistic Interest
1:03:36 - Different Approaches to Artistic Interests
1:04:02 - Importance of Persuasive Interests
1:04:20 - Sales and Persuasive Interests
1:04:46 - Aligning Roles with Interests
1:05:32 - Role Misalignment and Job Satisfaction
1:05:59 - Birkman Interests as a Reflection of God's Image
1:06:29 - Psalm 139 and Birkman Interests
1:06:58 - Personal Examples of Career Alignment
1:07:17 - Top Interests and Career Fit
1:07:43 - Career Wheel and Role Clarity
1:08:33 - Integrating Personal Interests into Work
1:09:03 - Reflecting God's Image Through Interests
1:09:24 - Aligning Top Interests for Fulfillment
1:09:47 - Interest in Music and Role Alignment
1:10:33 - Importance of Living Into Your Interests
1:10:54 - Interests as Tuning Forks
1:11:18 - How to Engage Interests for Job Fulfillment
1:11:44 - Coaching for Role Adjustment
1:12:14 - Using Interests for Career and Personal Growth
1:12:51 - Music as a Stress Relief
1:13:15 - The Role of Social Energy in Work
1:13:57 - Using Interests to Recharge
1:14:21 - Strategies for Engaging with People
1:14:57 - Understanding Needs for Better Relationships
1:15:23 - Shalom and Peaceful Relationships
1:15:44 - Negative Impact of Unmet Needs
1:16:06 - Stress from Lack of Personal Space
1:16:49 - The Importance of Personal Recharge Time
1:17:09 - The Impact of Home Environment on Stress
1:17:50 - Finding Solutions to Stressors
1:18:06 - Birkman Results and Patreon
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