Episode 265: The Art of High Standards: Building Brand, Team & Trust in Aesthetics with Hilary Baer Hogan, MSN, BSN, BC-NP
The Fierce Factor with Kaeli Lindholm
Release Date: 05/12/2025
The Fierce Factor with Kaeli Lindholm
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info_outlineIn this inspiring guest expert episode of The Fierce Factor, I sat down with Pop Leadership Academy member and founder of Bare Skin Marin, Hilary Baer Hogan, for a raw and powerful conversation about building a purpose-driven business in aesthetics.
Hilary shares how she transformed personal tragedy into professional triumph, using the loss of her mother as the catalyst to launch her now award-winning practice. Together, we explore what it really takes to scale a values-aligned brand, including the discipline of high standards, the art of delegation, and how to step out of the founder bottleneck.
From being evicted mid-workday to reinventing systems that prioritize excellence and long-term results, Hilary opens up about navigating adversity, establishing her proprietary “Skin to Structure” method, and setting a new standard for patient experience. She also discusses the importance of hiring for emotional intelligence and creating internal systems that uphold a gold standard of care without sacrificing work-life harmony.
If you’re a purpose-driven founder ready to lead with intention, this episode will challenge, empower, and inspire you to build a business that not only thrives—but honors your personal mission.
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