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The Innovation Show

Release Date: 08/27/2025

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What happens when startups like Figma outpace industry giants like Adobe? In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen sits down with bestselling author Sangeet Paul Choudary (Platform Revolution, Reshuffle) to explore how AI, cloud technology, and mindset shifts are reshaping the future of work, design, and competition.

Discover why incumbents often fail—not from lack of innovation, but from failing to unlearn old architectures. Using the case of Figma vs. Adobe, we unpack how element-based design, governance-led workflows, and AI-first thinkingare redefining industries from design to law to construction.

Key takeaways:

  • Why adapting mindsets matters more than adopting tools

  • How AI is unbundling knowledge work and rewriting career paths

  • The importance of governance in enterprise-wide collaboration

  • Why the forgetting curve is as critical as the learning curve

 

Perfect for innovators, leaders, and professionals navigating the knowledge economy, this episode is a roadmap for thriving in a world of structural uncertainty where AI and cloud-native startups are rewriting the rules.

00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message
00:17 The Hammer and the Nail: Misreading New Technology
00:28 Adobe vs. Figma: A Case Study in Innovation
01:03 The Importance of Mindset in Technological Shifts
01:20 Guest Introduction: Sanjeet Paul Choudary
01:49 Figma vs. Adobe: A Deep Dive
04:07 Technological Shifts and Organizational Change
05:57 The Impact of AI on Work and Careers
17:00 Governance vs. Execution in Modern Enterprises
18:22 The Future of Competition and Industry Structure
21:40 The Need for Unlearning in the Age of AI
24:34 Preparing for the Future: Skills and Careers
36:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
38:05 Closing Remarks and Sponsor Message
 

📚 Resources & Links

• Reshuffle: Who Wins When AI Reshapes the Knowledge Economy

→ https://amzn.to/3HWwj1I

• Platform Revolution

→ https://amzn.to/4mBq2aQ

• Sangeet’s Substack

→ https://substack.com/@platforms/posts

• Aidan’s show notes

→ https://thethursdaythought.substack.com

🎙️ Listen now to learn how to reshuffle your thinking, your organization, and your career for the AI-driven future.