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Release Date: 01/14/2025
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This week on the Model FA Podcast, David interviews Jacob Miller, co-founder of Opto Investments, about bridging the gap between private markets and the wealth community. Opto focuses on providing better technology and alignment of incentives for RIA firms, offering custom funds and automated subdocs. They work with clients ranging from $500 million to tens of billions, emphasizing long-term strategies and high-quality private market investments. Jacob shares his background at Bridgewater Associates and the inception of Opto, highlighting the importance of trust, education, and...
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What's up Model FAs?! This week David interviews Ed Kuresman from Mai Capital Management about his career journey. Ed started in finance during the tech bubble, interned at Madison Financial Advisors, and grew the firm from $20 million to over $1 billion in assets. During this period Ed emphasized the importance of client referrals, a positive culture, and strategic partnerships. In 2024, Madison joined Mai, adding operational expertise and expanding to 33 people. During this episode, Ed highlighted the significance of long-term planning and the impact of Phil Knight's "Shoe Dog" on his...
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In this episode of the Model FA Podcast, David DeCelle is joined by Dr. Joshua Wilson, a behavioral finance expert with a PhD and a background in advisory, to discuss his journey and insights within the financial services industry. He emphasizes the importance of understanding subconscious decision-making in client relationships and the need for advisors to integrate behavioral finance principles beyond just education. Dr. Wilson highlights the significance of pre-client conversations and the emotional connection with clients. He also discusses the impact of AI on the industry, suggesting it...
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Today we are joined by Matt Middleton, CEO of Future Proof, a media and events company aiming to modernize the wealth and investment management industry. Matt shares his journey from humble beginnings to founding Future Proof, emphasizing the importance of networking and personal connections. He discusses the company's unique approach, including casual attire, shorter sessions, and innovative networking technology. Future Proof has grown significantly, with attendance increasing from 1,600 in 2022 to nearly 2,700 in 2023. Matt envisions Future Proof as a transformative force in the financial...
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Stand by Model FA’s! In this episode, Joanne Bradford (Chief Money Officer at Domain Money) reveals the future of personal finance, challenging traditional wealth management paradigms! Don't miss this game-changing conversation about money, technology, and personal empowerment! 🚀 Key Takeaways: Why most people between 35-45 desperately need a comprehensive financial plan How technology is transforming financial advice The shocking truth about unmanaged personal finances Strategies for taking control of your financial future Connect with Joanne: Website:...
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Check it out! Host David DeCelle interviews Craig Butler, Chief Growth Officer at Tru Independence, about business development and sales strategies. Tru Independence, which recently merged with Sanctuary Wealth, manages $45 billion in assets with 120 advisors. Craig emphasizes the importance of differentiating in a crowded market, offering comprehensive business services including compliance, marketing, and technology support. He highlights the need for advisors to transition from practices to businesses, suggesting tools like EOS and business valuations to assess and improve operations. Craig...
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In this episode of the Model FA podcast, David DeCelle, CEO of ModelFA, interviews Jonathan Foster, President and CEO of Angeles Wealth Management, a national wealth management firm serving ultra-high-net-worth families. Angeles Wealth Management has grown from $250 million in 2017 to $2 billion in 2022. Jonathan shares his journey from Institutional Equity sales trader to founding his own firm and later joining Angeles. He discusses their unique business model, which aligns interests with clients by charging performance fees for alternative investments, leading to a 50% revenue increase in...
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Buckle up Model FAs! In this episode David sits down with Phil Weiss to discuss the critical importance of talking to your clients about Life Planning. Phil shares his 3 favorite questions that will change your life as he and David discuss discovering your potential and the nuances of financial planning from overcoming college debt to planning for financial freedom through the late stages of life. Connect with Phil: Email: [email protected] Website: https://apprisewealth.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-weiss/ About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast...
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In this episode, David is joined by Gary Sirak is an experienced financial advisor who has been in the industry for 45 years. He wrote a book called "How to Retire and Not Die" based on his experiences seeing clients struggle with retirement. The key themes of the book are purpose, passion, and having a plan for retirement. Gary emphasizes the importance of retirees finding meaningful activities and not just sitting around, as that can lead to health issues. He shares examples of clients who have thrived in retirement by staying active and engaged. In this episode: Having a plan for...
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In this episode of the Model FA podcast, David DeCelle is joined by Amir Noor, CFP®, EA to discuss his journey in the financial industry. Amir started at 16, working his way up from life insurance paperwork to becoming a licensed advisor. He transitioned to a fee-only firm, offering a $400/month subscription model, which grew to over 50 clients in two years. Amir emphasizes the importance of building personal connections and providing genuine financial advice. He discusses his pricing strategy, which evolved from a subscription to a payment plan, and his approach to client acquisition,...
info_outlineIn this exciting episode of the Model FA Podcast, co-founders David DeCelle, Graham Gardner, and Dan Allison share fresh insights and actionable strategies straight from their thriving membership platform, The Exchange. Each month, they highlight key posts, discussions, and breakthroughs from within the community that offer high-value advice to financial advisors looking to grow and scale their practices. This episode is no exception as they dive deep into topics that matter most to advisors: refining your client segmentation process, the art of building a second-chair advisor role, and actionable tips for reaching your 2025 business goals. Whether you’re looking to streamline your client experience, automate key areas of your business, or sharpen your marketing strategies, this episode offers a treasure trove of ideas and tools to help you elevate your practice. Get ready for a fun, insightful, and engaging conversation packed with practical takeaways you won’t want to miss!
Key Highlights:
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Client Segmentation with Adam Swerdlow
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Adam’s new approach to client segmentation goes beyond just revenue. He uses a point system considering revenue, referral potential, wealth trajectory, service time, and client engagement. This method helps identify A, B, and C clients based on both qualitative and quantitative factors.
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If you're a member of the Exchange, search for “Client Segmentation” by Adam Swerdlow for more details and a downloadable Google doc.
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Key Takeaway: Evaluate your clients holistically—not just by the revenue they generate, but by their potential to refer new business and the energy they bring to your practice.
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Hiring a Second Chair Advisor
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A second-chair advisor can help advisors offload lower-value clients while maintaining service to your top-tier clients. This approach can help you scale your practice without losing relationships or revenue.
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Key Takeaway: Hiring a second chair advisor early on can make transitions smoother as you prepare to step back from day-to-day operations. It’s a long-term play that ensures business continuity and client satisfaction.
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Michael Kitsis and the Power of Referral Strategies
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Paul McManus helps advisors become authors. He was recently featured on Michael Kitsis' podcast, and his calendar is already full for January.
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For advisors thinking about authoring a book, Paul’s services can help bring your ideas to life and make you a bestseller.
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Key Takeaway: Networking with industry influencers, like Michael Kitsis, can significantly elevate your business and exposure.
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Automation and Operational Efficiency
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Ariel from Sphinx Automation and Jason Mirabella from Deliver Advice are contributing new courses and monthly calls on improving operational efficiency and automating business functions.
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Key Takeaway: Efficient automation can save valuable time and allow advisors to focus on high-impact activities.
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Google Reviews and Testimonial Strategies
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Building and systematizing a Google review program is crucial for advisors looking to enhance their online presence. Michael Kitsis discusses this in his podcast.
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Key Takeaway: Set up automation for requesting reviews, integrate them into your CRM, and ensure you aren’t bombarding clients who’ve already given a review.
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January Webinar on Google Reviews
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Save the Date: On January 23rd, at 12 PM ET, join David DeCelle and Andrew Johnson for a webinar on how to leverage testimonials and Google reviews for your practice. Register here (available before the event).
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VIP Mastermind and Member Highlights
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Congrats to Melody Brady, Joe Moss, and David Daley for reaching Level 6 in the Exchange. These members will participate in the first VIP mastermind, where Dan, Graham, and David will help them refine their business strategies.
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Key Takeaway: Engaging and contributing to the community can unlock opportunities for deeper business development through personal coaching.
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Setting Strategic Goals for 2025
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Graham shares a framework for setting strategic goals for 2025 using the SMART methodology (Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Repeatable, Time-bound).
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Key Takeaway: Focus on 1-3 key goals for each area of your business, then work backwards to develop tactics that will move the needle. Avoid getting caught up in tactical noise.
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Sports Moment
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Graham shares his excitement about his Washington Commanders making the playoffs, and David (with his Tampa Bay background) provides a humorous take on sports fandom.
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Useful Links:
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Join The Exchange: skool.com/exchange
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Webinar Registration (January 23rd, 12 PM ET): Register here
Tune in for more valuable content like this each month on the Model FA Podcast!
Connect with Dan:
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Website: https://www.fa.exchange
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Email: [email protected]
Connect with Graham:
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Website: https://www.fa.exchange
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Email: [email protected]
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theonlinemarketer/
About the Model FA Podcast
The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.
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